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Is the SEC an extremely tough basketball conference this year?

Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:33 pm
Some teams are really struggling. Missouri for example. They have pretty much found this league too much for them to handle. And this is a proud hoops school with a handful of elite 8s under their belt

Wonder how they would've done in the Big 10 this year

Any yes- I am aware Arkansas was not up to the usual standard this season. however we did win conference games and beat Duke. Personnel changes are incoming on the hill
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 12:38 pm
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:35 pm to
not tough any enough for Arky to be where they are
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:41 pm to
A bit early in the season to draw any conclusions on the depth of the SEC. I know LSU does not look like an easy out for any team this year coming off a Natty.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Is the SEC an extremely tough basketball conference this year?


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A bit early in the season to draw any conclusions on the depth of the SEC. I know LSU does not look like an easy out for any team this year coming off a Natty. By FreddieMac



Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:46 pm to
Kentucky is just soft on defense.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Some teams are really struggling. Missouri for example. They have pretty much found this league too much for them to handle. And this is a proud hoops school with a handful of elite 8s under their belt

If only we could trade places with Arkansas, then all of our troubles would be cured.
Posted by Warwick
Member since May 2022
1005 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 1:03 pm to
well its the #2 RPI conference which is a step above where it was not long ago, but id only consider the b12 an extremely tough league
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Is the SEC an extremely tough basketball conference this year?


This is a tough year?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 2:09 pm to
No

Evidence - LSU is 8-8
Posted by Delmore
Haynesville La
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:32 pm to
No. Hogs just suck
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:35 pm to
I think you could make that case, but it's similar to previous years where it's still pretty top-heavy.

Tennessee is obviously really, really good, and has one of the top defenses in the country, along with Auburn.

Alabama is better than expected and has perhaps the best offense nationally, which makes them uniquely dangerous (but frustrating on the defensive side). Kentucky isn't too far behind, and could be one of the more scary teams in the league on any given night.

Florida, much like Alabama is dangerous offensively, especially if they can matchup well and manage to defend. Mississippi State is similar but opposite, with a stout and physical defense.

South Carolina has a great record and has really done well (with a weaker schedule and some luck), but is realistically more of an overachieving middle-of-the-pack team — regardless, they're having a fantastic season. Texas A&M is probably at a similar level, probably having played better competition.

Ole Miss is competitive but abysmal defensively. LSU just doesn't seem to be a consistent team, but has some nice wins and could make a late-season run. Conversely, Georgia started hot and faded. Arkansas vastly underachieved, probably because they've got elite talent that can't figure out how to play as a team.

And Missouri and Vanderbilt are some of the worst teams in the country.

So you've essentially got 4 elite teams, 4 teams that can hang with or beat just about anybody, maybe 4 teams that you can't really seem to figure out, and 2 that just never found any rhythm all season.

Hopefully the elite teams keep their legs and the next-tier guys make the tournament, get hot at the right time, and we can all show how tough our conference is in a few weeks.

Just my two cents.
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:56 pm to
Oh hahaha, I read that as baseball, not basketball. They are playing basketball right now? Thought the season was over.
Posted by gamecockman12
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:31 pm to
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South Carolina has a great record and has really done well (with a weaker schedule and some luck), but is realistically more of an overachieving middle-of-the-pack team — regardless, they're having a fantastic season. Texas A&M is probably at a similar level, probably having played better competition


A&M and SC aren't at a similar level. SEC play reflects that.
Posted by GetPiggywithIt
Ouachita Mountains of Arkansas
Member since Dec 2022
2324 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

This is a tough year?
sit this one out Cow patty
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
23021 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 5:07 pm to
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A&M and SC aren't at a similar level

Their metrics are actually very similar.

Take kenpom, for example:

SC
AdjO: 52
AdjD: 42
SOS: 88

A&M
AdjO: 59
AdjD: 60
SOS: 20

Or Haslam:

SC
Off: 51
Def: 60
SOS: 87

A&M
Off: 56
Def: 62
SOS: 41

A&M has just been on a freefall for the past month (1–5). They played each other less than a week ago and it was 2-point game.

And to be clear, I don't mean to take anything away from SC at all. I'm rooting for them.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21171 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:26 pm to
Arkansas sucks because of the team chemistry, terrible discipline from Muss and weak spots at certain positions due to poor recruiting in the portal by Muss.

Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10564 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:27 pm to
There are 4 teams that could make the final 4. Yes.
Posted by Footballtimentn
Member since May 2022
404 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:40 pm to
The SEC is pretty good overall. Tennessee is a confide top 5/6 team. Teams 2-6 are all very solid however other than Kentuckys win over UNC, they haven’t shown they can beat the big boys. Lack of Q1 wins among that group has me thinking most of them are done in round of 32.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5863 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:20 pm to
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And to be clear, I don't mean to take anything away from SC at all. I'm rooting for them.


I mean you kind of are when the objective evidence is that one team is 12-4 in SEC play and the other is 7-9 and you say they're on a similar level. "freefall" as you put is part of the criteria that separates the good teams from the average teams. SC deserves more credit than you're giving them.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2875 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:39 pm to
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There are 4 teams that could make the final 4. Yes.



And on the flip side, all 4 could legitimately lose in the first 2 rounds if things fall the wrong way.
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