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re: Is Tennessee still the clear #2 all-time in the SEC?

Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by Legendary0903
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:52 pm to
LSU's insecurity complex is baffling.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:54 pm to
i mean it sounds bias but you have to make an argument for LSU

3 titles is better than 2 titles

the rest are close enough that you can make an argument that a national championship trumps as couple of SEC titles and less wins.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:55 pm to
I had no idea that the only member of the Big Six that Tennessee has a winning record against is LSU.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:57 pm to
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LSU's insecurity complex is baffling.


MELT
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:57 pm to
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Facts dont have an expiration date


In that case,

Tennessee has more wins, SEC Championships, Bowls, Bowl Wins, and a better winning percentage than LSU, as well as a lead in the All-Time series
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 8:59 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12266 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:00 pm to
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Since 2000, LSU has been way better than Tennessee. I know UT fans seem to think they are coming back but I just don't see it myself. UT has passed its prime and will eventually get passed by several teams


Ok. The same could be said for LSU when they were having 2/3 win seasons. Something Tennessee has ever done.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:01 pm to
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Oh, I don't get it?

No, you don't.
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If you mean do I get the thinking of the average idiot,

So now if someone isn't an SID or NCAA historian, they're an idiot?

That's you being unreasonable.
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You put up a list from the NCAA and then I put up a list from the NCAA.

Let me make something clear, you didn't provide any data I haven't already seen. The problem is that in the past when I've promoted use of that list, it is ALWAYS shot down as being, you guessed it, unreasonable.


Face it, there is no one list that all schools use, and what really kills your list for practical use is that EVEN ALABAMA DOESN'T USE THAT LIST because it's unreasonable.
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yet you insist that the one you prefer must be the one that everybody believes.

Good lord, are you EVER reasonable?

I said no such thing. I present that list as a reasonable authoritative list that most reasonaable people could agree to it's acceptability for common use. I made no mention to any 'belief systems'. lulz
Posted by Dr._Jimes_Tooper
Member since Jul 2013
2358 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:01 pm to
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I had no idea that the only member of the Big Six that Tennessee has a winning record against is LSU.


That sounds bad but UGA's only winning record v B6 is UF.

UF only has UT and LSU.

LSU only has AU and UGA

AU only has UF and UGA

Its a really competitive league.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:07 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12266 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:03 pm to
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No. They 5 sec titles since 1970.


And 7 since 1968, the same as LSU.

In that time span UT has more bowl appearances and more total wins.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:03 pm to
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quote:

Its a really competitive league.



Well, except for the school that is 5-0 vs other Power 6's, yes
Posted by Dr._Jimes_Tooper
Member since Jul 2013
2358 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:05 pm to
Bama is clear number 1, no argument from me. I'm not an idiot. It still pains me to admit It tho.

So frick you.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:08 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:07 pm to
I really didn't start the thread as a TN troll thing. I'd still put TN #2. They are 2nd in basically every category. They are in a similar spot Bama was in 2006, which was another 10 years like the previous 10 and you fall down the pecking order. A good next 10 and things stay the same.
Posted by Dr._Jimes_Tooper
Member since Jul 2013
2358 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:11 pm to
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I really didn't start the thread as a TN troll thing. I'd still put TN #2. They are 2nd in basically every category. They are in a similar spot Bama was in 2006, which was another 10 years like the previous 10 and you fall down the pecking order. A good next 10 and things stay the same.


Its all a big cycle. Hopefully UT can start trending back up. Although I'm sure the feeling isn't mutual
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:12 pm to
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Yes, but the gap is getting smaller.


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:13 pm to
Eh, I don't like Tennessee and I love to see them suffer........but I can admit it's more fun when that game is a big deal. And, quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing people question why we still play the game. So, while I don't WANT Tennessee to be good, I do think it would be fun if you were. If that makes sense.





Still hate you, obviously.
Posted by Nicolae
Member since Dec 2012
1880 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:15 pm to
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AU only has UF and UGA


No they don't. AU vs UGA is 55-55-8.
Posted by Dr._Jimes_Tooper
Member since Jul 2013
2358 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:16 pm to
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And, quite frankly, I'm tired of hearing people question why we still play the game.


We can definitely agree on that.
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
484 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:17 pm to
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Let me make something clear, you didn't provide any data I haven't already seen. The problem is that in the past when I've promoted use of that list, it is ALWAYS shot down as being, you guessed it, unreasonable.


Who defines "reasonable"? The average person you get on these boards gets their information from google or some other canned website which doesn't hold much historical perspective. People lacking historical perspective don't have good opinions. Therefore, the average opinion you get is not good.

I don't care if it's "reasonable" or not. I don't presume to define what's reasonable. I worry about others who do, or at least presume to put their definition of "reasonable" over what's factual. All I stated was teams get their title information from the NCAA record book. Nobody gets it from the link you gave. Feel free to give an example of teams that use the list you gave.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:20 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:18 pm to
When a debate makes Alabama people bring up losing for almost a decade straight to a program they hate as a reason to continue playing said program.........I mean I don't know what else you need to know about it.
Posted by Dr._Jimes_Tooper
Member since Jul 2013
2358 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:18 pm to
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No they don't. AU vs UGA is 55-55-8.


You're right.

AU has UT and UF

Honest mistake

The point still stands. If you're not Bama, it's really hard to consistently win v B6 teams.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:26 pm
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