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re: Georgia and Auburn each have 2 consensus national titles in football
Posted by boxedlunch on 1/29/19 at 1:18 am
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Bowling Green dropped Auburn after an assistant AD left Oklahoma (who did play for the NC) to be AD at Bowling Green and played Oklahoma instead. Oklahoma dropped Citadel and we added them as a quick replacement. Long story short Bowling Green finished in the top 25 for the only time in bvb their existence that year they played and were beaten by Oklahoma, giving Oklahoma 1 more quality win on paper than Auburn.
The only time Bowling Green finished ranked was the year before. Otherwise a fair point.
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re: Georgia and Auburn each have 2 consensus national titles in football
Posted by boxedlunch on 1/28/19 at 11:46 pm
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Still played and won an SEC schedule and if we hadn’t started out ranked 20 spots below the other two, we’d have played for the title.
It was unanimous among the BCS computers that Auburn's schedule was weaker than the other two teams. The voters seemed to think so, too.
Auburn did reach #2 in the AP poll. Not looking strong against Alabama is what killed them.
re: Top 10 SEC "National Champions" that aren't "recognized" widely by many
Posted by boxedlunch on 5/6/17 at 4:39 pm
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Ignore the fact that Auburn played more teams ranked in the top 10, at the time, than USC and Okl. played top 25 teams..............combined.
This is not true.
re: Top 10 SEC "National Champions" that aren't "recognized" widely by many
Posted by boxedlunch on 5/6/17 at 4:34 pm
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FWAA doesn't count either. LSU wins both AP and UPI going 10-0 before finishing 11-0-0. FWAA crowns Iowa which went 8-1-1. FWAA and NFF don't have credibility like the AP and Coaches.
They did in the 60s, FWAA at least.
re: CFB Data Warehouse? Is the site no more?
Posted by boxedlunch on 5/2/17 at 11:02 pm
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Stassen is still up. Can't say for how long given it's dependence on CFDW.
Stassen pre-dated cfbdatawarehouse. Chris did cite cfbdatawarehouse once and say he might give it up in favor of that, but he got his query information from Howell, which is why it's not all-time.
re: CFB Data Warehouse? Is the site no more?
Posted by boxedlunch on 5/2/17 at 10:29 pm
Well, speaking as someone who knows more than a little about historical college football information, my reviews:
winsipedia - couple of guys scraped data from the internet without crediting their sources and are fairly ignorant about historical information. Whoever uses that, gets what they deserve.
sports-reference - also ripped others off for information without credit. Information is incomplete.
Stassen - Good stuff, but also doesn't have all-time records
cfbstats - good stuff, but only has about 8 years
cfbdatawarehouse was original research, for which it will be missed. The national championship section was responsible for causing massive amounts of confusion on the subject and wikipedia was far too reliant on it for information that could have been found at reliable sources, but original research is rare and priceless. I hope someone picks it up and cleans it up.
winsipedia - couple of guys scraped data from the internet without crediting their sources and are fairly ignorant about historical information. Whoever uses that, gets what they deserve.
sports-reference - also ripped others off for information without credit. Information is incomplete.
Stassen - Good stuff, but also doesn't have all-time records
cfbstats - good stuff, but only has about 8 years
cfbdatawarehouse was original research, for which it will be missed. The national championship section was responsible for causing massive amounts of confusion on the subject and wikipedia was far too reliant on it for information that could have been found at reliable sources, but original research is rare and priceless. I hope someone picks it up and cleans it up.
re: Longest Drought of Top 10 Finishes Since 1960
Posted by boxedlunch on 2/3/17 at 2:11 pm
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re: Orgeron's victories as an HC
Posted by boxedlunch on 12/2/16 at 4:21 pm
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Six wins against teams with winning records in five seasons. That's a little over one win per year. Looks like winning to me.
8 if you throw out teams who's losing record were created by the wins.
re: Orgeron's victories as an HC
Posted by boxedlunch on 12/2/16 at 4:17 pm
re: On this date in 1981, Bear won his 315th game to become all time leader
Posted by boxedlunch on 11/28/16 at 5:21 pm
re: Longest Active Bowl Streaks (including 2016)
Posted by boxedlunch on 11/28/16 at 5:17 pm
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Where is Auburn?
It's in Alabama.
re: Longest Active Bowl Streaks (including 2016)
Posted by boxedlunch on 11/28/16 at 5:16 pm
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Unfortunately you've got a ways to go to catch up to Ole Miss's percentage win record.
Bowl Percentage Win Records
Interesting fact: Ten of fourteen SEC teams have winning records in bowl games. Pretty impressive.
For the record, Ole Miss was never the "winningest bowl team" of all-time. That article was full of crap.
re: On this date in 1981, Bear won his 315th game to become all time leader
Posted by boxedlunch on 11/28/16 at 3:06 pm
I remember this well. Years later, the NCAA added several wins to Pop Warner's record, giving him 319 wins, more than AA Stagg. Of course, by then, Bryant had 323. Meaning, Pop Warner had the most all-time wins of any coach, but never held the NCAA record.
re: The SEC becomes All-Time Winning Percentage boss
Posted by boxedlunch on 11/21/16 at 10:12 pm
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Also note, many teams, especially from the former SWC, had been ordered by the NCAA to forfeit games, but never changed the official record.
Not sure why Bama pretends games never happened when other schools don't.
The reason Bama counts the forfeits and vacated games is because that's what most teams do when the NCAA orders them to. Your first paragraph is mostly hooey, BTW. Texas Tech is the only SWC team to not apply NCAA ordered forfeits, or vacated games.
re: The SEC becomes All-Time Winning Percentage boss
Posted by boxedlunch on 11/21/16 at 7:17 am
This happened weeks ago. Didn't bother to mention it because Alabama fans tend to be annoying, and it's not official.
re: CFB is 26-189 against Ranked SEC West Teams
Posted by boxedlunch on 10/24/16 at 6:37 pm
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That is some pretty obscure shite right there. Can we get something to compare it to por favor?
Of the 28 conference, divisions that have existed since 2009, that winning percentage is 6th smallest.
re: I just read this stat about Butch Jones
Posted by boxedlunch on 8/24/16 at 1:32 pm
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he has more wins vs 25 than Butch
In their 3 years in the SEC, Bielema has one more. Hardly worth talking about.
re: I just read this stat about Butch Jones
Posted by boxedlunch on 8/23/16 at 3:02 pm
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but to answer your question Bert was 2-0 against Auburn and Tennessee last season
That didn't answer the question.
re: Arkansas football vs the SEC all time & vs SEC EAST
Posted by boxedlunch on 8/12/16 at 9:20 am
Arkansas is 165-186-8 against current SEC teams, 167-184-8 officially.
Against current SEC East teams they are 36-51.
Against current SEC East teams they are 36-51.
re: The BIG 6 vs The BIG 6 ALL-TIME
Posted by boxedlunch on 8/12/16 at 8:58 am
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You mean 1893? Stassen's statistics on that formula page go back to 1902. That's where the stats came from. Never seen that site you linked before.
You'll be better off if you never see that site again.
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