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re: Is Kirby's UGA defense the best we’ve seen in the SEC in recent history? Nxt lvl data...

Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:02 am to
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:02 am to
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It’s just so pathetic

$30,000,000 for a football team?

yep, agree
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:04 am to
We could do yards per play below season average when eliminating each team.

Ex: When we eliminate UGA, Arkansas was averaging 6.73 YPP. Against UGA, they averaged 3.6.

Right now, UGA is holding its opponents to 2.4 yards per play below their season average. 2016 Alabama?

Let's get granular!
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Why in the frick would a Auburn fan root for alabama against UGA in the SEC title game?


I didn't root for either in the title game a few years back, but the reason would likely be preventing uga from taking the next step to a title. At this point bama continuing to pile on to their trophy list probably isn't causing much of a shift in recruiting...uga likely winning one wouldn't either but it could make it even easier for them. Thus an Auburn fan might root against uga playing bama.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:06 am to
No

Next question
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:08 am to
People forget that once Jefferson was reinstalled at QB, the offense got reigned in those last 3-4 games. We leaned even more on the run and JJ wasn’t as good at play action passing as Lee.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:23 pm to
It's a fact not conjecture. The excerpt below from "Bama Insider" was from September and keep in mind, Bryce has been pressured much more since then. The A&M game was a disaster he was pressured and hit so much.

If there’s one thing Young has excelled at early on, it’s been his ability to escape pressure in the pocket. Playing behind what has been a patchy offensive line at times this season, the sophomore has already been pressured on 44 of his dropbacks. By comparison, Jones and Tagovailoa were each pressured just 16 times over their first three starts
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

We could do yards per play below season average when eliminating each team.

Ex: When we eliminate UGA, Arkansas was averaging 6.73 YPP. Against UGA, they averaged 3.6.

Right now, UGA is holding its opponents to 2.4 yards per play below their season average. 2016 Alabama?

Let's get granular!


Sure thing...

UGA is actually holding opponents to an avg of 2.36ypp below their opponents' season avg when you eliminate the UGA game and FCS opponents from each stat line. The best they've posted is a 3.26ypp difference against Kentucky.

2016 Bama managed to finish the season at 2.35ypp. This includes a SEC championship, and two playoff games. Their season best was 4.6ypp difference against LSU, and they posted above a 3.5ypp difference in 6 FBS games.

You can also break this down into scoring by looking at points allowed per play, which at the moment UGA is holding opponents to 0.314 points below their season average.
So far they've faced an avg ppp of 0.397.
The best offensive ppp they've faced is UK at 0.522. The best difference they've posted is against Arkansas at 0.502ppp below their average.

2016 Bama finished at 0.288 points below the opponet's average ppp.
Their schedule had a season avg of 0.471ppp.
The best offensive ppp they faced was strangely WKU at 0.697ppp (Washington was 2nd at 0.688).
The best difference they posted was against Washington at 0.563ppp below their average.

It's worth noting that the 2016 Bama defense also averaged 0.071 non-offensive points per play, which means the defense actually scored 1 point for every 14 plays an opposing offense ran.

2021 UGA's defense averages 0.029 non-offensive ppp, which comes out to scoring 1 point for every 34 plays an opposing offense runs.

Yes I'm a bit of a numbers geek.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
3673 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:34 pm to
I disagree, based on what A&M was able
To do. They got the best of young
& it's undeniable. They can't hold
Georgias jock. Maybe Saban could consult with Sark lol. Ask him how he
Would scheme against that D. Obrien
Hasn't shown a lot of promise yet.
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5733 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:41 pm to
Solid stats fam. I too am a numbers guy.

quote:

UGA is actually holding opponents to an avg of 2.47ypp below their opponents' season avg when you eliminate the UGA game and FCS opponents from each stat line. The best they've posted is a 4.32ypp difference against Kentucky.


I think a few of your numbers are off under the parameters, though (ex: UK-UGA game YPP numbers and UGA opp YPP below season average numbers). Even though the corrections diminish my point.

Kentucky ran 69 plays for 243 yards (3.52 YPP) vs Georgia.
If we eliminate UGA and FCS opponents, Kentucky is averaging 6.78 YPP (312 plays; 2,115 yards).
6.78 - 3.52 = 3.26

Still on a solid track. I didn't check the others out, but alas... granular.
CFBStats or TeamRankings may be tripping you up in this instance. Not sure which is your go-to if you scrape.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14808 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:50 am to
I’ve always said 2011 LSU is the best I’ve ever seen.

On top of being a brick wall they had Mathieu who was a threat to score on any play.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42532 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 2:04 am to
quote:

I do think it’s worth mentioning that Arky’s QB has looked dinged up since the A&M game though



It was Ole Miss, but he did have 325 and 3TDs thru the air as well as 85 & 3TDs on the ground in that game.
Posted by Hang10
East of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2021
1126 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 2:26 am to
Best stats, arguably...

But, Against who?


Honestly, where would Bama be with ga's schedule? Ole Miss? aTm, AU, fla, MSU?



Seriously, ga. has beaten a very bad Clemson team that may win the ACC by default because no one has the mental makeup or physical presence across the board to compete with them 60 minutes. Granted NCSU did, Syracuse did and gave it away. Why? Because they were exhausted and Dabo kept substituting away knowing it would pay dividends in the end..

So, ga beat them, what was the score? So low! Wow, is Clemson really this great on defense? (A game in which J.T.Daniels played the full 60 minutes.

What about ky? What about ky?
Ky was poised and primed for a huge "UPSET" of the dogs in Athens, ga on a Saturday game day Festa atmosphere.. so both teams entered the game undefeated @ 6-0 I believe. Both had their share of the walking wounded. Some will miss the entirety of the season.. So, ga has 4*after 4* with a few 5*'s sprinkled all throughout the roster.. ky has to take 3*'s with a very small amount of 4*'s and make it work.. Anddddd, they do! Year in year out. Ky had a chance before they played LSU the weekend before the tilt in Athens. What happened was a relief to Georgia coaches and players and a shot thru the heart of every ky fan ..two all-sec and all-america nominees go down in the LSU Game along with likely finishing off the big #2 receiver Ali... Ali wasn't blowing up the stats sheet this season but when you're his hght/ wt. and build not to mention an extremely long wingspan. Well, I, said ga. could absorbed those kind of losses and ky couldn't..

So the OP is asking about ga's defense. Quick answer: they're a very mean,ruthless yet disciplined bunch of barkers that's for sure.. whether or not they'll reach legendary status and become immortalized by ga. fans everywhere, still remains to be seen... You passed the 101 courses with ease. Not it's time jump up class or 2.. ,

So, after you've met somebody who can pressure your defense,we may get some insight. If we are not privileged to find out against a qualified dangerous offense..

The world may never know....

P.S. if you end up Playing Bama or Ole Miss you'll get to find out..

And maybe just......Maybe, aTm..
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:26 am to
Good to see you back, MsGarrison.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40000 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:44 am to
You throw out AM, UK, UF, and MSU but all these teams have lost to another team we blew out. How would they benefit from our schedule besides not having to play UGA.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
1534 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:11 am to
If our coach would stop being hard headed and just play Richardson at QB Georgia's defense will get a real test.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:23 am to
quote:

UGA offense is not UF
Georgia is averaging more points per game than Florida. Weird right?
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:25 am to
UGA might have to play AU again.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:50 am to
BE$$$$T in HI$$$$TOREE!

There is one way and only one way this can happen for such a mundane run of the mill program like ThugA...

and you ABSOLUTELY KNOW what that i$....
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 9:53 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17482 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:51 am to
Still on that, eh $Cam?
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1904 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 10:15 am to
quote:

I think a few of your numbers are off under the parameters, though (ex: UK-UGA game YPP numbers and UGA opp YPP below season average numbers). Even though the corrections diminish my point.

Kentucky ran 69 plays for 243 yards (3.52 YPP) vs Georgia.
If we eliminate UGA and FCS opponents, Kentucky is averaging 6.78 YPP (312 plays; 2,115 yards).
6.78 - 3.52 = 3.26

Still on a solid track. I didn't check the others out, but alas... granular.
CFBStats or TeamRankings may be tripping you up in this instance. Not sure which is your go-to if you scrape.


I typically use CFBstats for all the numbers since you can easily sort by FBS opponents, AP ranked, etc... and they provide situational stats too. I didn't find too many other inaccuracies (a few yards off for two other teams) after cross referencing with NCAA/ESPN. For some reason my formula was off for UGA giving them an additional 0.10ypp advantage. After adjusting it, the 2016 Bama team and 2021 UGA team have a nearly identical ypp yield with the exception of 2016 Bama did this for 14 FBS games and 2021 UGA has only played 7 so far.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 12:15 pm
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