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re: Is Heupels offense sustainable?
Posted on 10/21/22 at 3:52 pm to David Ricky
Posted on 10/21/22 at 3:52 pm to David Ricky
When he go mop up duty this year I agree that he looked much more confident in a live game. It has always been between his ears, imo. Got damn that arm though, the hail mary is an option from anywhere on the fieldl.
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:03 pm to Tigerpride18
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I don’t think you can run it with a good qb with a weak arm. If that tells you anything
This is probably true. The offense we're seeing now relies on splash plays more than most offenses but despite the way our offense has been operating, Heupel is actually a run first playcaller (it's just that we haven't been able to run block very well and our RB room is thin as hell. (No depth at all in the RB room).
But you have to think the success of this offense will change his outlook on future offenses. Sure, you want the run game involved more but you also want to replicate the success of this offense as much as you can.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:05 pm to DoUrden
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When he go mop up duty this year I agree that he looked much more confident in a live game. It has always been between his ears, imo. Got damn that arm though, the hail mary is an option from anywhere on the fieldl.
Agreed. There is absolutely no defense for a quarterback that can throw it over the defense’s head no matter where he’s at on the field. God I hope Heupel works his magic with Bazooka Joe
Also props to Milton for being a complete team guy instead of sulking/whining/transferring like so many QBs do when they lose their job. Notice anytime the camera cuts to Heupel in games, Milton is typically right there. And it seems like he’s always the first one to congratulate or greet Hooker when he comes off the field. Little things like that matter a lot when it comes to quarterbacks imo. Remember how Guarantano would act when he got benched lmao
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:07 pm to themicah85
frick yeah it is. Especially with that big freak show y'all have coming in.
Kid is built for this offense.
Just like everyone though, if you you're weak at WR like Bama or weak at OL it'll bleed through.
But that wide open style is the easiest to hide weaknesses in if you have a stud QB
Kid is built for this offense.
Just like everyone though, if you you're weak at WR like Bama or weak at OL it'll bleed through.
But that wide open style is the easiest to hide weaknesses in if you have a stud QB
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:08 pm to Uga Alum
quote:Unless they frick y'all up like the past two times you've been to the sec title against wide open schemes with good QBs
Heupel’s offense is like a great set of fake tits. Kirby’s Defense is marriage material. It makes sense if you think about it.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:08 pm to themicah85
Only with great QB play and great WR play. IMO 10 ago if you had a great OL and RB and a QB that didn’t hurt you, that was an easier offense to sustain. Only problem with today’s offenses is if your QB is off or WR are off you are really ineffective and you get beat because you can’t burn clock.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:09 pm to David Ricky
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Also props to Milton for being a complete team guy instead of sulking/whining/transferring like so many QBs do when they lose their job.
My man Milton is a leader in the lockerroom. He's also the one that led the team in singing "We don't give a damn about the whole state of Alabama."
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:09 pm to nicholastiger
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College is becoming more QB driven It's not easy to replicate the top QB's Look at LSU since Burrow Replacing Hooker will be tough
Lol LSU's offense was never a problem with Myles and imagine if Jamar chase was in it like he would have been without Covid. Also Joe Brady left with Burrow too.
Things happen but schematically Heupel is advanced.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:11 pm to Solo Cam
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frick yeah it is. Especially with that big freak show y'all have coming in.
Kid is built for this offense.
We are super excited for Nico. I think we sit him for a year though to develop and that Milton will be a perfect bridge QB. And I don't say that as an insult because Milton has improved a ton and with the canon he has he could really make the year he has special.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 6:07 pm to David Ricky
Heupel will keep winning until everyone else is running the same offense.
Then the wins will go to whichever coach figures out how to DEFEND against it.
I've already come up with a way to defend it. Football is going to look VERY DIFFERENT on the defensive side of the ball in 20 years.
I'll sell it to anyone for a cool 5 million. Heupel gets it for 3 (big orange sale price).
Then the wins will go to whichever coach figures out how to DEFEND against it.
I've already come up with a way to defend it. Football is going to look VERY DIFFERENT on the defensive side of the ball in 20 years.
I'll sell it to anyone for a cool 5 million. Heupel gets it for 3 (big orange sale price).
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 10/21/22 at 6:21 pm to David Ricky
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There is absolutely no defense for a quarterback that can throw it over the defense’s head no matter where he’s at on the field.
Sure there is. Having a DB who's fast enough to not let the receiver behind them.
There's a reason Kirby focuses so much on DB recruits, and it's not just because he was a DB. With today's passing offenses, those guys are necessary to hold offenses in check.
UGA's top recruits this year are both DB's. 4 4-star or higher guys already committed. Last year had 3 5-stars and 3 4-stars at DB. Year before (including transfers) was a 5 star and 3 4-stars. Before that was a 5-star and 3 4-stars.
It's about having the athletes to cover guys in the secondary... not the scheme. As many have pointed out, the general scheme has been a thing for decades now.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 6:32 pm to DawginSC
The concept of staying out of the huddle, if you like your team on the field against their team of the field, is not new. Tennessee can walk to the line, stand up, then look to the sideline when they want to lock those lineups in. I've watched them do it. Kentucky used to to do it. About the only thing I liked about the Joker Phillips offense.
So yeah, Heupels method can work with the next QB. Its smart.
So yeah, Heupels method can work with the next QB. Its smart.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 7:07 pm to labamafan
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Only with great QB play and great WR play.
Hooker hasn’t been great, he’s been good. The WRs have been reliable but are not great.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 7:14 pm to Prof
According to Herby, it’s the Art Briles system which has been around 20 yrs Saban, the greatest DB coach according to some God ever placed on earth, didn’t have a fu@king clue, even with Tennessee’s best WR out.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:11 pm to themicah85
It was plenty sustainable under Briles at Baylor
Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:19 pm to Smokeyone
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Hooker hasn’t been great, he’s been good. The WRs have been reliable but are not great.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:36 pm to themicah85
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You obviously need a good quarterback but that kind of goes for every offense.
Not really true. The deep pass is what he is living off of. Not every QB can do that.
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I think with the super wide sets and tempo,
The super wide sets leaves alot of room on the field to exploit.
Over all, I like the offense and It, like all offenses, will have it's ups and downs.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:That would allow any passing offense to sustain.
I think it definitely relies on a QB with a wide array of traits
- good decision maker
- a threat with his legs (not necessarily a track star, but someone the defense has to account for)
- accurate deep arm
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:25 pm to themicah85
Yes, if anything you’re going to start seeing other SEC teams adopt some of his tendencies.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 9:26 pm
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