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re: Is Gus Malzahn the founding father of HUNH?
Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:52 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:52 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
No ,chip kelly showed every one how to go really Fast.
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:57 pm to Jefftigerduck
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No ,chip kelly showed every one how to go really Fast.
So the argument that this rule would stifle the evolution of CFB offenses makes no sense. This type offense has been around for a long time.
There's so many bullchyt arguments flying around on this it's hard to keep up.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:00 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Rocky do you think both the offense and defense should be afforded an equal opportunity to sub players ? That's the real reason driving the rules change IMO. Yeah Yeah I know player safety..don't care to discuss that part. Just want to see if people think that both teams should be allowed an equal opportunity to sub players.
Instead of the 10 sec rule how about after a first down? That would also allow time form the chains to be moved and refs to be set?
What about when the game clock stops after an incomplete pass or out of bounds?
Certainly, you can agree the current set up isn't equitable . I think the Saban hatred and Bama's success is part of the backlash on the proposed rule change. The notion that Saban can't and hasn't ever been able to defend/beat a HUNH team is just not true; has those teams been successful, sure to some degree but not like everyone wants to make it seem.
I don't pretend to know what's best for CFB in the long run on this proposed rule change, I'm kind of neutral on it for now. I see the points from the defensive coaches side wanting a chance to sub players when they need to without fear of the o quick snapping and being penalized. I don't know if I think it is right that the O should be able to dictate substitutuons without having to call a TO.
How does basketball handle subbing?
Instead of the 10 sec rule how about after a first down? That would also allow time form the chains to be moved and refs to be set?
What about when the game clock stops after an incomplete pass or out of bounds?
Certainly, you can agree the current set up isn't equitable . I think the Saban hatred and Bama's success is part of the backlash on the proposed rule change. The notion that Saban can't and hasn't ever been able to defend/beat a HUNH team is just not true; has those teams been successful, sure to some degree but not like everyone wants to make it seem.
I don't pretend to know what's best for CFB in the long run on this proposed rule change, I'm kind of neutral on it for now. I see the points from the defensive coaches side wanting a chance to sub players when they need to without fear of the o quick snapping and being penalized. I don't know if I think it is right that the O should be able to dictate substitutuons without having to call a TO.
How does basketball handle subbing?
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:42 pm to LSU1NSEC
Is this really a link to a Scarbinsky article??
Is this serious???
Seriously . . .
Is this serious???
Seriously . . .
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:45 pm to Bham4Tide
you can't ban a Bham News article.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:04 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Substitution rules have been in place forever. You can't change them without screwing with the clock. The 10 second rule would kill a ton of chances for late game two score come backs. You know, the most exciting games. Its flawed in its unintended impact.
Offense Controls the clock - most fundamental rule in football. You can't institute a rule to have the offense "wait" on the defense. Nonsense.
Offense Controls the clock - most fundamental rule in football. You can't institute a rule to have the offense "wait" on the defense. Nonsense.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:12 pm to AUX3
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Substitution rules have been in place forever. You can't change them without screwing with the clock. The 10 second rule would kill a ton of chances for late game two score come backs. You know, the most exciting games. Its flawed in its unintended impact.
Offense Controls the clock - most fundamental rule in football. You can't institute a rule to have the offense "wait" on the defense. Nonsense.
Yes because we NEVER change the rules in football.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:10 am to Dplymkr88
Art Briles and the old RNS coaches might get upset at the HUNH being credited to Gus.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:12 am to diddydirtyAubie
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Can't stand HUHN
I'm not familiar with this
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:31 am to molsusports
Gus is nothing without Cam
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:52 am to Dplymkr88
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Yes because we NEVER change the rules in football.
Yet none of these fools cried about 10 second run off on offensive penalties or the 3 second spike rule. And that's just a tiny portion of the rule changes over the last couple years. Not fair to offenses
Edit: If you really want to see who is doing all the whining about this, go check out the Auburn board. Most team boards have none or no more than 1 thread, Auburn board has numerous
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 3:29 am
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:05 am to Phat Phil
quote:lol what?
Rich Rod was the pioneer. Gus's version is one of the most effective.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:09 am to austin109
quote:The Run & Shoot has nothing to do with the hurry up, no huddle
Art Briles and the old RNS coaches might get upset at the HUNH being credited to Gus.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 4:34 am to VerlanderBEAST
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The Run & Shoot has nothing to do with the hurry up, no huddle
It does if you run it quickly and don't huddle.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:33 am to spacewrangler
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I think the Saban hatred and Bama's success is part of the backlash on the proposed rule change.
What the frick does Bama's lack of success against the HUNH have to do with it? Just because every loss Bama has had over the last two years came at the hands of the HUNH doesn't mean people that build their entire fricking philosophy over a system that an insecure little prick is trying to demolish by changing the rules because he can't beat it means we give two shits about one guys lack of success. O wait. You're saying his success is the reason for the backlash? My god gumps are literally the worst group of people in college football. The absolute idiocy of what you're saying is so confounding and idiotic I don't know how you process oxygen.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:45 am to TeLeFaWx
A Telefawx post. Ugh.
Geez dude, just a stupid message board. You take things way too seriously.
Geez dude, just a stupid message board. You take things way too seriously.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:46 am to TeLeFaWx
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Just because every loss Bama has had over the last two years came at the hands of the HUNH doesn't mean people that build their entire fricking philosophy over a system that an insecure little prick is trying to demolish by changing the rules because he can't beat it means we give two shits about one guys lack of success.
Holy run-on sentence, Batman. I'm not sure I even understand what you're trying to say.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:51 am to LSU1NSEC
Malzahn isn't even the father of his own kids.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:52 am to 6nmylifetime
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Explain to me how Saban looking bad is really going to affect him. Is it going to cost him some recruits? He just signed the #1 class for how many years in a row now, so I guess no it's not really going to hurt recruiting. Is he going to be fined by his employer for being a poor representative of the company? Laughable right. Maybe it's his relationship with the media that will suffer? Again laughable right. I'm sure you can come up with something that Nick Saban is going to suffer through for "looking bad" in all of this but off the top of my head I really don't see "him looking bad" in all of this really having any adverse effect on him or the program in any way whatsoever.
Saban looks like a bitch in all of this to everyone but bama fans and a hamdfull of others.
No go ahead and deflect.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:55 am to 6nmylifetime
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Sam Wyche and the Cincinnati Bengals 25 years ago say no.
And Jim Kelly and the Buffalo Bills ran a version.
What makes Malzahn's more difficult is, it's primarily a running offense that imposes it's will on opposing defenses, destroying them in the process. And an exotic running offense at that. Hard to believe he learned it out of a book himself.
Gotta hand it to the man, he shook up the world and got Saban to cry for momma. lulz
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