re: Is Georgia good at football?

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UGA doesn’t get better, they don’t recruit better after 10 wins or improve with experience. They just trot out there and are happy to finish 4th after the playoffs when it no longer matters.

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UGA was hamstrung by QB play and overall offensive coaching. We have a 5* transfer, a 5* freshman, and another 5* in route. Plus we have Todd Monken. Perhaps your observation is a bit premature.

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UGA was hamstrung by QB play and overall offensive coaching. We have a 5* transfer, a 5* freshman, and another 5* in route.

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UGA recruiting rankings:
2021 4 (5* QB)
2020 1 ( 2 4* QB)
2019 2 (4* QB)
2018 1 (5* QB highest ranked player ever to commit to UGA)
2017 3 (4* QB #3 in the country)
2016 6 (5* QB #2 in the country)
2015 6 (no QB)
2014 8 (4* QB)
2013 12 (4* QB)
2012 9 (3* QB)
2011 7 (4* QB)
2010 11 (3* QB)
2009 4 (5* QB)
2008 7 (no QB)
2007 8 (4* QB)
2006 3 (5* QB)
2005 7 (3* QB)
2004 7 (4* QB)
2003 9 (no QB)
2002 9 (4* QB)
2001 10 (5* QB)
End of 247 rankings.

Monken, Coley, Chaney, Schottenheimer, Bobo 5 OCs in the last 7 years. Since 2016 their has been at least 1 current or former 5* QB on the roster.

So unless UGA can find a bunch of 7 or 8* guys to play for them I don’t think it’s going to change much. They have had 0 non top 15 classes and 7 top 5 classes since 2001 and have had established, proven OCs until the Coley and Monken experiments so not on the OC system. It’s not a brutal SEC East or West draw (they tend to avoid Alabama in the regular season), because the east has been a turd for a decade and the main west team they get is Auburn.

So we are down to witchcraft, just copping out by blaming it on bad luck (yes DJ we all know it’s just bad luck/DJ is an idiot by the way/) or maybe Mark Ritch and Kirby Smart are just not at good enough beach coaches to get it done. And yes I get that Kirby is young/still learning but does anyone honestly see him getting a better situation ever? He really just wasn’t ready to be a coach of a national contender P5 school. He really needed some seasoning before going to UGA. Could you imagine if he went back to Saban or the NFL for a couple of years how much better he could really be? But that’s not going to happen and in 3 years he will be a footnote.

Ol'Smokey, nothing I can say will change your mind. But the question is "Is Georgia good at football?". If not for a single team (Bama), UGA has 2 MNC's in the past decade. That's pretty good imo. So the Vols can keep doing what they're doing, and the Dawgs can keep doing what they're doing....we'll see which path works out best.

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Ol'Smokey, nothing I can say will change your mind.

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You know what would honestly change my mind? UGA ACTUALLY WINNING A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. It would also be cool if they actually earned the spot. Winning the East, winning the SEC, and winning a national championship.

There really is no excuse at this point or justification for a team that recruits consistently at a top 5 pace, consistently plays in the weaker division of the SEC, consistently draws average or worse west opponents, consistently wins 10 games a year to just not have a title since Carter was president and everyone was crazy about Starbuck and Apollo on Battlestar Galactica. GaTech, Clemson, Auburn, The Vols, all of UGAs rivals have won titles with significantly less than UGA.

Now I get that part of it is that UGA is cheap and doesn’t like spending money on facilities or coaches and for most UGA fans good enough is just going to be good enough, and make no mistake if you look at UGAs seasons individually instead of collectively they have a bunch of good to really good seasons. But as a program? Collectively? It’s got to be disappointing to know it could be better.

Under CMR it was like they couldn’t handle the pressure of expectations. Let them lose a game they shouldn’t and they will suddenly blow out an equal or better team. All it took was removing their fate from their control. And the fans (guys like DJ, not the whole breed) would chest pump about how they were a top 2 or later 4 team and really deserved the chance to show it. It’s like they didn’t see them get dragged by UofSC and lose to Florida or something.

CKS doesn’t achieve that level. He still has the odd shite the bed game EVERY YEAR but he still regularly get beat by equal teams. But that doesn’t stop the idiots (like DJ, not all UGA fans mind you) from decrying that they really deserve that 4th playoff spot. Didn’t win the SEC, has a couple losses but if they were just given (instead of earning) that spot... . The worst is after it doesn’t matter and UGA gets that 2nd-4th spot and the idiots (like DJ, not whole complete fan base you see), literally see that as prove they should have been given a playoff spot.


If my assessment is completely off base by all means please let me know. But it’s reasonable spelled out and fully supported in my opinion (and it is just that, my opinion. I am of the school of thought that titles should be earned, not simply given. A paycheck instead of a welfare check. But maybe I’m biased, Tennessee’s last title was from an undefeated season and all.

And yes I do believe those Bama titles were they couldn’t win their division much less the SEC are diminished. Especially the rematch with LSU. Those titles are greatly diminished in my opinion.

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Better than what exactly?

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More control, better recruiting, weaker SEC East, have Auburn at a lower point as the permanent cross division rival, have a really bad GATech on the schedule every year. It will never be easier on paper for Kirby than the situation he walked into at UGA. If he can’t win at least 1 national title in the next 3 years he likely needs to move on, be it the NFL or back to Bama to regroup and let someone else make the important decisions for a year or two.

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You somehow skipped the main thing that has held Kirby back, and I even pointed it out for you: nick saban.

And you skipped the 2nd main thing too:

he will likely have a better Qb situation than the one we have had the past 2 seasons at least a few times.

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2019 Orge and Gus beat Saban
2018 Swinney beat Saban
2017 Gus beat Saban
2016 Swinney beat Saban
2017 Freezus beat Saban

And none of them had the talent level on the roster that UGA has had during that timeframe.

Saban isn’t invincible. Saban isn’t the only coach to beat Kirby. Mullen, Mushchamp, Ogre, Tom Herman, Butch Jones, Derek Mason, Paul Mason all beat Smart.

As to the QB situation, UGA under Kirby has had 1-2 5* QBs on the roster almost continuously and a bunch of really high 4*s including transfers that started elsewhere before UGA and a couple that were drafted after leaving UGA. Mostly because Kirby is better at recruiting than he is managing/coaching.

But dont worry this years excuse will WRs were injured. That’s why UGA will lose to a random team or 2 before getting boat raced in the post season.

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If you do beat him by making that play, you likely needed a super star QB to make it happen

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Jarret Stidham, 287 yards 0 TD
Bo Nix 150 yards 1 TD
*****Superstars*****

You think coaches win because they are lucky or lose because they are unlucky? I’m guessing the closest you have ever come to playing competitive sports involved a game console.
General Neyland's 7 Maxims


1. The team that makes the fewest mistakes will win.

2. Play for and make the breaks and when one comes your way - SCORE.

3. If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.

4. Protect our kickers, our QB, our lead and our ball game.

5. Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.

6. Press the kicking game. Here is where the breaks are made.

7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes.

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Stidham played like a super star in that game

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Wait what?
Passing 21 28 237 75.0 0 0 25 1 146.1 84.5

Rushing 12 51 4.3 1 16

That’s a superstar QB performance to you? I mean granted no UGA QB under Mark Smart can do that but a little over 200 yards no TDs, 50 yards and a rushing TD is ****Super Star**** to you? Dude had a decent night. Maybe even a good night. Definitely not a bad game but superstar? Really?

And that’s just recent Saban losses. There are like 20 of them the last 20 years scattered with stat lines a UGA QB is theoretically good enough to aspire to. I mean we are not going to pretend UGA hasn’t had the 5* guys on roster are we? I joke that UGA needs to find 7* talent to end the 1980s jokes but you do understand that UGAs biggest issue at QB has been Kirby Smart right? They had Justin Fields that is a prototypical dual threat but Kirby wouldn’t let him throw a forward pass. Eason was at least as good as Chad “Money” Kelly as a QB but Kirby passed. They had the UGA fan favorite Jamie “heisman” Newman but opted to run out a walk on despite having 3 4* guys on the roster. UGAs QB issues are of their own making. And if I was doing a prop bet on UGAs QB situation in 2 years I would bet that Kirby finds a way to screw it up.

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Wait what?
Passing 21 28 237 75.0 0 0 25 1 146.1 84.5

Rushing 12 51 4.3 1 16

That’s a superstar QB performance to you?

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Look at this, smokeyone outs himself as a person who doesnt watch games, but does look at box scores.

Since its clear you didnt watch the game, lets just say he was clutch as frick from the final 2 minutes of the 1st half to his TD run early in the 4th Q. 4 straight drives, which led to 20 points, and then they ran the clock out.

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UGAs QB issues are of their own making.

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2019 and 2020 were lost chances, but trying to spin that as our own making is classic smokeyone ignorance.
Fields getting immediate eligibility as a transfer was unprecedented in 2019, and so was Newman quitting after a fall scrimmage.

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And if I was doing a prop bet on UGAs QB situation in 2 years I would bet that Kirby finds a way to screw it up.

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You would have lost your mortgage and retirement with your awful UGA predictions over the years.