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Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:30 am to BLG
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Not a heck of a lot of difference. Kentucky is still #1 in the nation, Arkansas is #19 in the nation, and Alabama is still #3 in the SEC and is #36 in the nation.
That is not correct.
Arkansas sits at .642 all time win percentage.
Arkansas is the youngest program in the nation with over 1,750 wins and is the only program who has not played basketball at least 100 years. Western Kentucky is the next youngest program at 101 years old that ranks in the top 20 in program wins and win pct.
For comparison...Kansas has played for 124 years. Kentucky for 119 years, etc.
So yes, there is a heck of a lot of difference. Arkansas is only 100 wins behind Indiana, but Indiana has played basketball for 122 years to Arkansas playing 99.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 9:32 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:38 am to PorkerDaddy
Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:41 am to Scoper
Are you seriously trying to make a case by using confernece titles?! Those don't mean shite in comparison to the tournament. You must be a Gump or a Barner for thinking they do. I'll take our National Championship, National Runner up, Final Fours, Elite Eights and Sweet Sixteens over conference titles any day as would most.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:04 am to Gordy
Just saw an article saying Maryland might go after Muss. Would that even be a possibility?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:07 am to OGtigerfan87
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Would that even be a possibility?
Arkansas' recruiting class alone would be enough to keep him and that isn't counting the other reasons
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:17 am to OGtigerfan87
Only way Muss ever leaves is for the right NBA job or UCLA (he’s a west coast guy).
State of Arkansas produces plenty of talent to win at Arkansas
State of Arkansas produces plenty of talent to win at Arkansas
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:57 am to Gordy
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I'll take our National Championship, National Runner up, Final Fours, Elite Eights and Sweet Sixteens over conference titles any day as would most.
As I said on our board... Arkansas has roughly a million SEC titles in track. I'd trade all of them in a heartbeat for one more national title in that sport.
In football an SEC title is impressive. In every other sport its just something to tuck away in the back corner of your trophy case. Hell, weren't we just putting our SEC track titles on the floor in a hallway for a long time?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:16 pm to Scoper
No.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:26 pm to Thumpa15
Nolan Richardson, AD Frank Broyles and former chancellor John White all had a hand in destroying Arkansas basketball.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:37 pm to OGtigerfan87
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Just saw an article saying Maryland might go after Muss. Would that even be a possibility?
I don't see what advantage he'd have at Maryland over Arkansas. Lots of instate talent to choose from here, and the SEC is getting really good. I can see him going to the west coast at some point if a job opened up there, but outside of that, a blue blood, or the NBA, he's at a good spot. Fan support is just about second to none here.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:43 pm to razorjm
If Muss can turn Arkansas back to mid 90s status then the only job he will take is an NBA job. No one really knows what his goals are but he is in his early 60s and so the clock is ticking.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:55 pm to dchog
Frank had Self lined up so can’t say he destroyed it. He hired Nolan.
Nolan destroyed it with his actions on the way out and therefore White said we had to hire an AA coach. White wouldn’t let Frank hire who he wanted
Nolan destroyed it with his actions on the way out and therefore White said we had to hire an AA coach. White wouldn’t let Frank hire who he wanted
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:58 pm to Golfer1
They wanted to fire Nolan before all that. He would have been fired the year he won the SECT, but obviously couldn't do that. Nolan wasn't perfect and had a lot of anger issues, but he was a black man born in the 40s, raised in the Southwest. Let's not act like him getting to where he was wasn't an uphill battle, and continued to be one while Frank and John White were here. Frank's last hurrah was hiring John Pelphrey through a search firm so he could make it to Augusta to play golf.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:06 pm to Golfer1
His relationship with Nolan was sour for 17 years. Frank wanted to fire him even when he was winning.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:14 pm to razorjm
Frank again had Altman lined up but he backed out.
Not saying Frank was always right but again he gave Nolan the chance to coach at Arkansas.
There is a reason Nolan lost every lawsuit he filed yet still lives in Arkansas.
Said if they want to fire me they can and well we did. If he acts like a normal human when he got fired then we get Self and never skip a beat
Not saying Frank was always right but again he gave Nolan the chance to coach at Arkansas.
There is a reason Nolan lost every lawsuit he filed yet still lives in Arkansas.
Said if they want to fire me they can and well we did. If he acts like a normal human when he got fired then we get Self and never skip a beat
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:14 pm to Tigerman97
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arkie has underperformed as a basketball school based on those stats.
Natty-goal #1
Final Four/Regular Season Championship-Next level
Elite 8/Conference Tourney-a level down
Sweet 16-bottom rung of accomplishments
No way a regular season champ is on the same rung as a final four....that is ridiculous
Regular season champ is below an Elite 8 appearance.
SEC conf champ is just above Sweet 16 appearance.
I would rank them like so:
NCAA Finals appearance
NCAA Final 4 appearance
NCAA Elite 8 appearance
SEC conf championship
NCAA Sweet Sixteen
NCAA 2nd round appearance
SEC tourney champ
NCAA 1st round appearance
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:15 pm to razorjm
Frank was going to fire him if wasn't for then chancellor Dan Ferritor stepping in after the 1990 final four.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:16 pm to dchog
Lmao Frank didn’t want to fire him when he was winning nor before. Load of BS.
Nolan always had that chip on his shoulder that he couldn’t get off. That’s why he wasn’t able to get another college or good coaching job when he was fired. Said everyone was racist yet still lives in Fayetteville
Nolan always had that chip on his shoulder that he couldn’t get off. That’s why he wasn’t able to get another college or good coaching job when he was fired. Said everyone was racist yet still lives in Fayetteville
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:19 pm to Golfer1
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Frank again had Altman lined up but he backed out.
Not saying Frank was always right but again he gave Nolan the chance to coach at Arkansas.
There is a reason Nolan lost every lawsuit he filed yet still lives in Arkansas.
Said if they want to fire me they can and well we did. If he acts like a normal human when he got fired then we get Self and never skip a beat
He acted like a normal human who was always fighting for his job despite having a wild amount of success. Frank royally screwed up with Nolan.
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