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Posted on 11/20/23 at 8:10 am to
Posted by BoCam2
Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
5098 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 8:10 am to
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It’s the only game they care about. They will celebrate more than if they win an NC.


Never go full Updike
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16109 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 8:17 am to
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Sorry you don't like local companies


Russell Athletic hasn’t been local for 15 years. They’re owned by Fruit of the Loom and headquartered in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 8:27 am to
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This is the worst AU team since 2012
thats just not the case. Last two years were worse imo
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16109 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 8:46 am to
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2017- AU better, AU wins


2017 Auburn lost 4 games.

2017 Alabama won the national championship.

Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16109 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:03 am to
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thats just not the case. Last two years were worse imo


I think it's probably a wash. Saturday notwithstanding, you're VASTLY better coached than you were in 21 and 22, but the roster deficit is the worst it's been in ages.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89441 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:08 am to
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2017- AU better, AU wins


2017 Auburn lost 4 games.

2017 Alabama won the national championship.


At the tail end of November AU had 2 "good" close losses by a combind 12 points and had just knocked off the #1 team in the coutnry 2 weeks before. Tjhey were ranked in the top 5 anbd abosolutely rolling.

Perhaps it would've been more accurate to call them on even footing rather than saying AU was better, that may not have been fully accurate. But what happened in Decembver/Januayr has absolutely nothing to do wiht how the teams shoudl be classified at Thanksgiving.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7474 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:10 am to
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Hell, the fact they lost that game tells me their players were already focusing on this game and perhaps even their staff wasted practice time on gadgets for Alabama that they never intended to use against NMSU.


Prepped most of the NMS week for Alabama. It means everything to them.
Posted by Shankapotamous
Member since Dec 2014
325 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:47 am to
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Russell Athletic hasn’t been local for 15 years. They’re owned by Fruit of the Loom and headquartered in Bowling Green, Kentucky.


Seeing as how that picture was taken 20 years ago they were a local company then.
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
1006 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:49 am to
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Couldn't convert a 4th and 1, OJ Howard had a completely unnecessary holding call to negate a run inside the 5, and Cade Foster could not kick a fricking field goal to save his entire family.


Saban had no confidence that Foster could make a chip shot 25 yard FG and went for it instead and essentially cost Bama the game.
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:52 am to
I’m never one to doubt the dark arts of Shug Boogie Stadium. They got on us this year as Johnny Cash once said …”kicking and a gouging in the mud, the blood, and the beer”. But this Alabama team is real good and well coached and Auburn needs a few more players.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 10:00 am
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29634 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:53 am to
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I think Saturday's tragic embarrassment makes it more likely that Auburn pulls off an upset.



i would argue the opposite. this series, despite common belief, is like 80% in favor of the favorite. and auburn just got thoroughly demoralized.

i doubt they suddenly find themselves on the field this week, but if alabama can't fire them up.... then nothing can.

they say you can throw the record book out on this game, but that's demonstrably false.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105529 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:59 am to
Since Alabama got good under Saban

Year, Line, Final Score

2009 : Alabama -10, Alabama wins by 5 (26-21)
2011 : Alabama -21.5, Alabama wins by 28 (42-14)
2013 : Alabama-10, Auburn wins by 4 (34-28)
2015 : Alabama -15, Alabama wins by 16 (29-13)
2017 : Alabama -5, Auburn wins by 12 (26-14)
2019 : Alabama -3.5, Auburn wins by 3 (48-45)
2021 : Alabama -20.5, Alabama wins by 2 (24-22)

2023 : Alabama -14.5, ?


Like with most of this season on our end, I think this game most closely mirrors the 2015 game. I hope it isn't as tight for 3 qtrs as that one was, but wouldn't shock me.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 10:02 am
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11223 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 10:17 am to
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2021- Bama much better, bama wins (although it's worth noting this one was a major WTF? game. Bama was a quite a bit better but looked like dogshit and barely escaped. So sure chalk this up to voodoo if you want)
2019- Teams evenly matched, AU wins
2017- AU better, AU wins
2015- Bama much better, bama wins
2013- Teams evenly matched, AU wins
2011- Bama much better, bama wins
2009- Bama much better, bama wins (albeit much closer than anyone may have thought)
2007- AU better, AU wins


I'd argue that 2017 was more of an even matchup. Alabama came in dinged up on defense and Hurts was having an up and down season. Auburn was on a big time heater having just upset the #1 UGA squad a few weeks prior.

The big takeaway is HFA helps Auburn in closer matchups to secure wins; HFA helps make the alumni feel better about "makin' bama sweat" in the years where they're inferior in talent. Auburn has never won a game over Saban's Alabama where they have been the definitively worse team. That's not to say they haven't made Alabama sweat it out because they surely have and I expect the same this weekend.

Alabama hasn't played in a very hostile crowd since the Aggy game and they had a lot of OL miscues pre and post snap in that game. @State and @Kentucky don't prepare you for @Auburn all that much. Especially since the @UK kick was 11 AM. I'm interested to see the progress in that position group. I suspect drive killing holds will spell the difference between Alabama winning comfortably or uncomfortably (with the window for Auburn to actually pull it out).
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11386 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 10:27 am to
Auburn played like they forgot NM state was their next game and not Bama
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 11:11 am
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34739 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 10:29 am to
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no businesses winning, but when has that ever stopped them?



The last ten years, outside of to weeks.
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