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re: Interesting idea on VOLS radio today re: divisions and scheduling
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:09 pm to David Ricky
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:09 pm to David Ricky
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- Completely get rid of divisions within the SEC.
Quit reading here.
What incentive is it to finish 1st over 2nd?
They'll be times when you'll have to use some silly tie breaker to break ties between 2nd and 3rd.
I hate the permanent 3. Unfair split as well. If you try to split up "The big 6" evenly, then that will leave schools like Ole Miss playing Vandy, KY, and USCe every year, meanwhile we are all hearing about LSU having to play Bama and Florida every year.
Not to mention why do we want 3? There are only a couple of schools that have 2 main rivals, definitely not any with 3.
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:16 pm to David Ricky
This is actually a really good idea
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:17 pm to StopRobot
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Yeah I am sure LSU would want that
If it's for the good of the conf
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:20 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Great job. I would vote for this everyone gets equal difficulty. And no one too easy . Ms state gets a tough schedule but not everything is fair and those are close schools and no real must have match ups for msu aside from egg bowl.
Submit to the committee please
Submit to the committee please
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:29 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Kentucky: Vandy, Missouri, South Carolina
Two of the longer running series in SEC football are…
112 games = Kentucky vs Tennessee
089 games = Kentucky vs Vanderbilt
Historically protecting the top 2 teams in the SEC
Alabama = Tennessee + Auburn + Ole Miss
Tennessee = Alabama + Kentucky + Vanderbilt
Sort the rest out from there.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:33 pm to Cheese Grits
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Tennessee = Alabama + Kentucky + Vanderbilt
Completely fine with me
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:34 pm to David Ricky
This is the lamest idea for anybody.
1 - You will need NUMEROUS tie-breakers.
2 - You will have VERY FEW common opponents to compare. Right now, divisions lets you & another team have 5 games to work with.
Do we have a scheduling problem? Yes. But letting teams do a "free for all" makes it even WORSE!
1 - You will need NUMEROUS tie-breakers.
2 - You will have VERY FEW common opponents to compare. Right now, divisions lets you & another team have 5 games to work with.
Do we have a scheduling problem? Yes. But letting teams do a "free for all" makes it even WORSE!
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:35 pm to thelawnwranglers
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If it's for the good of the conf
Really the devotion you guys have to the conference is admirable
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:38 pm to DBU
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DBU
Interesting idea on VOLS radio today re: divisions and scheduling
I could be way off base but I thought the NCAA had some asinine rule about divisions in conferences and conference championship games
It DOES! 12+ school conferences MUST HAVE DIVISIONS in order for a championship game. The B12 recently got the okay to be exempt (despite all of their members play each other yearly).
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:40 pm to David Ricky
I think this is the 1st conference realignment thread I've upvoted
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:48 pm to southernboisb
I wonder if you could petition for an exemption. This isn't a bad idea.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:03 pm to Torch
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Torch
Bama: TN/Auburn
Auburn: Bama/UGA
Florida: UGA/LSU
UGA: Auburn/Florida
LSU: Florida/TN (only left)
TN: Bama/LSU (only left)
You left off the WLOCP between UGA & UF. So that's why I removed LSU.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:04 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Does anyone know who LSUs most played Football opponent is? That's right Mississippi State.
It's also Alabama and Ole Miss's most played opponent.
Not playing would interrupt MSU-LSU but that's a pretty tough one for MSU as it is.
It's also Alabama and Ole Miss's most played opponent.
Not playing would interrupt MSU-LSU but that's a pretty tough one for MSU as it is.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:08 pm to Cheese Grits
I grew up in Tennessee, and no one gave a shite about Kentucky during football season. Also, Alabama has played Miss State close to 40 more times than we've played Ole Miss, and Starkville is only about an hour from Tuscaloosa.
I posted earlier in the Bama basketball thread that these should be the permanent home and home opponents in basketball. Maybe you'll like them better. It's only got a few differences
Alabama: Auburn, Mississippi State, Tennessee
Arkansas: Missouri, LSU, Texas A&M
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Miss State
Florida: Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky
Kentucky: Tennessee, Missouri, Florida
Georgia: South Carolina, Florida, Auburn
LSU: Texas A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss
Ole Miss: Mississippi State, LSU, Vandy
Mississippi State: Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn
Missouri: Arkansas, Kentucky, Texas A&M
South Carolina: Georgia, Florida, Vanderbilt
Tennessee: Vanderbilt, Alabama, Kentucky
Texas A&M: LSU, Arkansas, Missouri
Vanderbilt: Tennessee, Ole Miss, South Carolina
I posted earlier in the Bama basketball thread that these should be the permanent home and home opponents in basketball. Maybe you'll like them better. It's only got a few differences
Alabama: Auburn, Mississippi State, Tennessee
Arkansas: Missouri, LSU, Texas A&M
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Miss State
Florida: Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky
Kentucky: Tennessee, Missouri, Florida
Georgia: South Carolina, Florida, Auburn
LSU: Texas A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss
Ole Miss: Mississippi State, LSU, Vandy
Mississippi State: Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn
Missouri: Arkansas, Kentucky, Texas A&M
South Carolina: Georgia, Florida, Vanderbilt
Tennessee: Vanderbilt, Alabama, Kentucky
Texas A&M: LSU, Arkansas, Missouri
Vanderbilt: Tennessee, Ole Miss, South Carolina
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:10 pm to Jobu93
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Jobu93
Interesting idea on VOLS radio today re: divisions and scheduling
I wonder if you could petition for an exemption. This isn't a bad idea.
Eh. To each their own.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:20 pm to southernboisb
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1 - You will need NUMEROUS tie-breakers.
I LOVE THIS IDEA, but I have a scenario that would be a nightmare.
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, MSU permanent
Ole Miss, South Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky, A&M
SEC Record: 8-0
Florida: Georgia, Auburn, Tennesse permanent
A&M, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Auburn, Vanderbilt
SEC Record: 8-0
LSU: Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas permanent
Mizzou, Auburn, Kentucky, MSU, South Carolina
SEC Record 8-0
Maybe unlikely, but who plays in the SEC Championship game?
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:26 pm to David Ricky
If you get rid of the two divisions in the SEC you can't have a championship game by NCAA rules. They require schools to play every team in their division or every team in the whole conference to go to a championship game, and the SEC has too many teams for the latter.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:30 pm to dudeabides
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you can't have a championship game by NCAA rules
I thought the power 5 got autonomy that let them ignore these rules.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:43 pm to David Ricky
Permanent opponents:
Alabama - Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Auburn - Alabama, Florida, Georgia
Arkansas - LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M
Florida - Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia
Georgia - Auburn, Florida,
Kentucky - Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, ?
LSU - Alabama, Arkansas, Ole Miss
Mississippi State - Kentucky, Ole Miss, ?
Missouri - Arkansas, Texas A&M, ?
Ole Miss - Mississippi State, LSU, ?
South Carolina - ?, ?, ?
Texas A&M - Arkansas, Missouri, ?
Vanderbilt - Kentucky, ?, ?
? where there isn't a clear fit
Alabama - Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Auburn - Alabama, Florida, Georgia
Arkansas - LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M
Florida - Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia
Georgia - Auburn, Florida,
Kentucky - Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, ?
LSU - Alabama, Arkansas, Ole Miss
Mississippi State - Kentucky, Ole Miss, ?
Missouri - Arkansas, Texas A&M, ?
Ole Miss - Mississippi State, LSU, ?
South Carolina - ?, ?, ?
Texas A&M - Arkansas, Missouri, ?
Vanderbilt - Kentucky, ?, ?
? where there isn't a clear fit
Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:45 pm to anc
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anc
Interesting idea on VOLS radio today re: divisions and scheduling
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1 - You will need NUMEROUS tie-breakers.
I LOVE THIS IDEA, but I have a scenario that would be a nightmare.
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, MSU permanent
Ole Miss, South Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky, A&M
SEC Record: 8-0
Florida: Georgia, Auburn, Tennesse permanent
A&M, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Auburn, Vanderbilt
SEC Record: 8-0
LSU: Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas permanent
Mizzou, Auburn, Kentucky, MSU, South Carolina
SEC Record 8-0
Maybe unlikely, but who plays in the SEC Championship game?
YOU GET MY POINT!!!
However, there is a problem with your example: Fl. has Aub. as perm. & group of 5.
But using what you gave (common games):
Alabama: nobody
Arkansas: 2 (Ala./LSU)
Auburn: all 3
Florida: nobody
Georgia: Fl.
Kentucky: all 3
LSU: nobody
Mississippi St.: 2 (Ala./LSU)
Missouri: LSU
Ole Miss: all 3
South Carolina: 2 (Ala./LSU)
Tennessee: 2 (Ala./Fl.)
Texas A&M: all 3
Vanderbilt: Fl.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 8:51 pm
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