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re: Interesting idea on VOLS radio today re: divisions and scheduling

Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:46 pm to
I love it.

LSU's permanents would be aTm, Arkansas, and Ole Miss if we're going by like "traditional rivalries?"

Or will we keep Florida? Florida, aTm, and Ole Miss? Idk.

I would say Alabama, but they already are assured Tennessee and Auburn, and I'm not sure we'd be their third. It would basically be up to them.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 8:48 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:47 pm to
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TomRollTideRitter
Interesting idea on VOLS radio today re: divisions and scheduling

quote:
you can't have a championship game by NCAA rules



I thought the power 5 got autonomy that let them ignore these rules.


Nope. B12 got the okay for a CG recently having only 10 teams. However, don't think the other 4 expect them to remain much longer for this to cause an issue.
Posted by dudeabides
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:48 pm to
They changed the rules from having to have at least 12 teams to have a championship game so that a conference with less like the "Big 12" could have a title game... but that was just last year and I don't know if they're even planning on having one with the amount of following I do for them.
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:50 pm to
Who is UGA's 3rd?
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:53 pm to
Still REQUIRING divisions though?
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 8:56 pm to
There's no way in hell that we would get rid of the WLOCP for a permanent UF/UT game. Florida has won the past 11 of 12 and that's the only reason y'all hate them, we've been playing them and hating them a lot longer.
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:05 pm to
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Rule was perhaps dissolved for Big XII? I believe the requirement now is that every team play during regular season and the two best teams can then face off. If not all teams play, you may not be able to hold a championship game. Fact check me, because I'm not sure that's totally spot-on.


Rule was slightly amended for Big 12. And does require a complete round robin schedule if a conference opts to not have divisions.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:08 pm to
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There's no way in hell that we would get rid of the WLOCP for a permanent UF/UT game


That is correct

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Florida has won the past 11 of 12 and that's the only reason y'all hate them, we've been playing them and hating them a lot longer.


Lol VOLS/Florida at its peak was a much bigger game than WLOCP has ever been. I absolutely loathe that team and their garbage fan base
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:11 pm to
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- Completely get rid of divisions within the SEC.

- Each team has 3 permanent opponents.

- Each team rotates the other 10 opponents, 5 one season and 5 the next.

- By doing this, every football player that stays four years will be guaranteed to play both a home and an away game against every school in the SEC.

For example, Tennessee's three permanent opponents would likely be Alabama, Vanderbilt and either Florida or Kentucky.

Even numbered years we would play:
Georgia
Ole Miss
LSU
South Carolina
Missouri

Odd numbered years:
Florida or Kentucky (whichever isn't permanent)
Mississippi State
Auburn
Texas A&M
Arkansas


The two schools with the best records at the end of the season will meet in Atlanta for the SEC Championship.




Would not work with an eight game conference schedule. Look again, do the math, you'll see why.

Just try doing four years worth of schedules where home and away games are balanced, 4 each, within the conference.

Then do it in such a way so as no one is ever overloaded or underloaded in terms of degree of difficulty on top of their three permanent opponents.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 9:26 pm
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:12 pm to
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Still REQUIRING divisions though?



Yes, or complete round robin schedule without divisions.
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Still REQUIRING divisions though?



Yes, or complete round robin schedule without divisions.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:21 pm to
I was just spitballing teams making sure they didn't play each other. Three undefeated teams isn't very probable but one 8-0 and three 6-2 teams would happen 3 out of 5 years.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:06 pm to
At first I was not liking playing LSU instead of UF but now that I think about it a little more I'd love to be able to make a trip to LSU every other year.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:11 pm to
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I thought the NCAA had some asinine rule about divisions in conferences and conference championship games

If you want a Conference Championship game and the revenue that goes with it, you need to have two divisions.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:16 pm to
The NCAA would be the least of our worries if we chose to do this. Why would they care if we decided to have a tiddlywinks tourney to decide our champion as long as the money keeps coming and they got their cut. That's why I think they would go along with anything we proposed, be it 4x4 pods or no divisions at all. They'd go along with it.
Posted by lsudat10
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:20 pm to
Alabama / Auburn / Tennessee / LSU
Arkansas / Texas A&M / Mississippi State / South Carolina
Auburn / Alabama / Georgia / Ole Miss
Florida / Tennessee / Georgia / LSU
Georgia / Florida / Auburn / South Carolina
Kentucky / South Carolina / Vanderbilt / Missouri
LSU / Alabama / Ole Miss / Florida
Mississippi State / Ole Miss / Texas A&M / Arkansas
Missouri / Texas A&M / Kentucky / Vanderbilt
Ole Miss / Mississippi State / LSU / Auburn
South Carolina / Kentucky / Georgia / Arkansas
Tennessee / Florida / Alabama / Vanderbilt
Texas A&M / Arkansas / Missouri / Mississippi State
Vanderbilt / Tennessee / Kentucky / Missouri
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:13 am to
Alabama-Tennessee, Auburn, Miss State
Arkansas- Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss
Auburn-Alabama, Georgia, Florida
Florida-Georgia, Auburn, South Carolina
Georgia-Auburn, Florida, South Carolina
Kentucky-Vandy, Tennessee, Missouri
LSU- Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Arkansas
Mississippi-Arkansas, LSU, Miss St.
Miss State-Alabama, Ole Miss, Missouri
Missouri-Miss State, Kentucky Texas A&M
South Carolina-Florida, Georgia, Vandy
Tennessee-Alabama, Kentucky, Vandy
Texas A&M-Arkansas, LSU, Missouri
Vandy-Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina

That keeps old rivalries intact, rekindles some slumbering ones, and creates a couple of new ones.
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 2:07 am to
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Alabama-Tennessee, Auburn, Miss State




quote:

Auburn-Alabama, Georgia, Florida


I see what you did there.
Posted by The muffintime
Tampa Bay Metro
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 2:24 am to
Give Florida: Georgia, Auburn, and Tennessee

Give Alabama: Tennessee, Auburn, and LSU

Give Auburn: Georgia, Florida, and Alabama

Give Tennessee: Alabama, Georgia, and Florida

Give Georgia: Florida, Auburn, and Tennessee

Give LSU: Alabama, A&M, and Arkansas

And let the rest sort themselves out. Hell yeah! Trial by fire baby. I guarantee that even with the Big Six playing only each other as permanent opponents (and LSU drawing Alabama and what are the other two most consistently tough outs) that the SEC Championship would still be some combination of Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, and LSU pretty much every year, with A&M and Arkansas making some appearances too.

A&M could play LSU, Arkansas, and Ole Miss or Missouri

Arkansas could play LSU, A&M, and Ole Miss or Missouri
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 3:43 am
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7294 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 4:44 am to
Gotcha. But point still remains....MORE TIEBREAKERS!
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