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re: In Favor Of Scrapping Permanent Cross Division Games?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:27 am to kczoutiger
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:27 am to kczoutiger
If anything has to be done, we should require that the other teams do what uf, Uga, usc and Kentucky do.
They’ve had the fortitude to play their instate ooc and could easily call it off. But they kept it.
Before going to 9 in conf games or scrapping fcs, id suggest the other schools schedule their instate rival or play a worth power five......which is happening almost every year.
UF and Uga STILL are playing Miami and ND on top of FSU and gt.
They’ve had the fortitude to play their instate ooc and could easily call it off. But they kept it.
Before going to 9 in conf games or scrapping fcs, id suggest the other schools schedule their instate rival or play a worth power five......which is happening almost every year.
UF and Uga STILL are playing Miami and ND on top of FSU and gt.
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:27 am to USCrown
I am because I want to play other teams more often.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:28 am to LMfan
Ohio State is going to play one top ten-ish team: Michigan, and they'll likely walk into the CFB playoff. Imagine a schedule where Alabama, UGA, LSU, UF, AUB all play each other most years. You could drop 2 of those games and still be a better team than Ohio state, but have virtually no shot of getting into the playoff.
This isn't about fairness or tradition. It's about making sure we're not at a disadvantage compared to the other conferences.
This isn't about fairness or tradition. It's about making sure we're not at a disadvantage compared to the other conferences.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:30 am to USCrown
Scrap the permanent rivals and go to a 9 game SEC schedule. Even 3 or four years between games is not often enough for teams in the same conference IMO.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:33 am to scrooster
I’d love to play Georgia every year
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:38 am to twk
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Florida: Auburn, UGA, USC
I don't know what you are talking about here. Our rivals are now Vandy, Arkansas and Ole Miss. Please schedule us accordingly, thanks.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:45 am to LMfan
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No, it still won't make sense. There is no logical or historical precedent for forcing two teams to play annually to preserve another program's misguided sense of tradition.
Uh, yes there is. And it’s by
Money.....which is made by
Ratings.
There is a reason all 9 Big6 vs Big6 games are spread out one game per week.
This is how cbs - espn gets sec fans to tune in every week.
The entire sec schedule is based on these 9 games. Foolish to think otherwise.
9-21
UF @ UT
10-5
UGA @ UT
10-12
UF @ LSU
10-19
UT @ ALA
10-26
AU @ LSU
11-2
UF vs UGA @ Jacksonville
11-9
LSU @ ALA
11-16
UGA @ AU
11-30
ALA @ AU
The other Lil8 games are not really coveted to the point where they dictate the schedule.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:46 am to Leto II
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I get Aub/UGA and Bama/UT
I may be mistaken, but these seem like the only teams that are really invested in the idea. I'd rather see the 9 came SEC schedule and get some more variety.
Ky and MSU like playing each other rather than tougher SEC foes. Same for Ole Miss and Vandy. And Arkansas and Mizzou have a border rivalry now.
So it's really South Carolina, Texas A&M and LSU that aren't cool with the current format. Even Florida likes to play LSU.
I think we should get rid of cross-division games. If Alabama must play Tennessee every year, and if Auburn must play Georgia every year, then schedule them as OOC games the years the rotation doesn't call for those matchups.
After all, if Saban truly wants to play 10 P5 games (he doesn't, but he likes people to think he's always on the cutting edge, he's always about the spirit of fair competition and likes a level playing field), then an Alabama-Tennessee OOC game would fill one of those scheduling holes to get to 10 P5 games for Bama.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:47 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:58 am to LouisvilleKat
Problem is....with KY/MSU and MS/Vandy, you have FOUR automatic votes to retain the status quo ! None of these teams want a more difficult SEC schedule !
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:03 pm to TigerAndBadger
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West Arkansas A&M Missouri LSU Miss St Ole Miss Vandy/Kentucky
East Kentucky/Vandy South Carolina Alabama Auburn Georgia Florida Tennessee
Just no.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:35 pm to USCrown
The amount of people who seem to just completely misunderstand how the business of college football works is fascinating on this board.
What does a 9 game schedule actually "get" you:
more frequent matchups with teams that currently are on a slower rotation = this is a positive*
fewer games on tv = decreased $$
a guarantee of more total losses in the conference = potential negative impact to CFP standings, rankings, conference perception
- uneven 5/4 scheduling
Feel free to add in actual positives to the above list and I can keep this updated.
Roommate Switch/Pod approach gives me the same benefit of playing teams more frequently, while retaining top rivalries, AND gives me the option of a 9th game if the entirety of the NCAA moves to that model and it becomes a necessity. In the meantime, it also allows teams to look to schedule 2 P5 OOC opponents every year while still retaining 2 OOC games that they can "rent a home game" for as well...
It doesn't require sacrificing TV inventory, and therefore money. And it doesn't automatically ensure that the conference takes in more total losses, instead allowing better teams to pass some losses on to other conferences - giving the added advantage of "measuring stick" games throughout the season that can color the rankings.
What does a 9 game schedule actually "get" you:
more frequent matchups with teams that currently are on a slower rotation = this is a positive*
fewer games on tv = decreased $$
a guarantee of more total losses in the conference = potential negative impact to CFP standings, rankings, conference perception
- uneven 5/4 scheduling
Feel free to add in actual positives to the above list and I can keep this updated.
Roommate Switch/Pod approach gives me the same benefit of playing teams more frequently, while retaining top rivalries, AND gives me the option of a 9th game if the entirety of the NCAA moves to that model and it becomes a necessity. In the meantime, it also allows teams to look to schedule 2 P5 OOC opponents every year while still retaining 2 OOC games that they can "rent a home game" for as well...
It doesn't require sacrificing TV inventory, and therefore money. And it doesn't automatically ensure that the conference takes in more total losses, instead allowing better teams to pass some losses on to other conferences - giving the added advantage of "measuring stick" games throughout the season that can color the rankings.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:01 pm to fibonaccisquared
The sec doesn’t need to do it and the folks that run it haven’t done it yet.
The reason?
We aren’t the acc/big10/big12/pac12.
......we don’t need to don’t and they do becaise their ratings aren’t like ours.
So there is no misunderstanding how college football works over here. The sec doesn’t do t because we don’t have to. The ratings are fine enough.
We usually play a p5 game. Anyone that is bagging on Alabama for duke is mistaken. Look at their schedules prior. Also, folk nationwide are watching bama-duke over some big10-pac12 game.
We’ve earned the respect and get the ratings because of it.
-No need for 9 sec games
-Keep cross div
-I’m still watching LSU VS GA SOuthrrn
-I’d like to keep that fcs game before LSU plays tough teams like au/fla/bama.
The reason?
We aren’t the acc/big10/big12/pac12.
......we don’t need to don’t and they do becaise their ratings aren’t like ours.
So there is no misunderstanding how college football works over here. The sec doesn’t do t because we don’t have to. The ratings are fine enough.
We usually play a p5 game. Anyone that is bagging on Alabama for duke is mistaken. Look at their schedules prior. Also, folk nationwide are watching bama-duke over some big10-pac12 game.
We’ve earned the respect and get the ratings because of it.
-No need for 9 sec games
-Keep cross div
-I’m still watching LSU VS GA SOuthrrn
-I’d like to keep that fcs game before LSU plays tough teams like au/fla/bama.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:16 pm to EasterEgg
So Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee all in one division and LSU in the other?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:44 pm to E.Hubble
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So Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee all in one division and LSU in the other?
I wouldn’t hate this?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:45 pm to USCrown
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Maybe UF/LSU?
It's been an annual game since the early 70s. Of course our real history is with Auburn.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:23 pm to USCrown
I don't care about divisions, but certain teams are fun to play every year. I would want to keep Florida, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn(series is incredibly entertaining), and Texas A&M. With that being said, I like things the way they are.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:40 pm to FightingTigers138
Go back to a non-watered down sec and play like the old days.
Have 5 twelve team leagues.
--------------SEC
LSU
Bama
AU
ARK
MSU
UM
UF
UGA
TENN
VAN
KEN
USC
--------------Big 10
WIS
MINN
IOWA
ILL
NW
PUR
IND
OSU
MICH
MSU
PSU
add Pitt
-----------BI2
AGGY
TEX
TT
BAY
TCU
MIZZ
OU
OKSU
NEB
KAN
KSU
ISU
------------Pac 12
USC
UCLA
WASH
WSU
ORE
OSU
AZ
ASU
STAN
CAL
COLO
UTAH
---------ACC
Clem
MIA
GT
FSU
MARY
UNC
DUKE
WAKE
NCSU
UVA
VT
WVU
-------- defunct -Big East leftovers
RUT gone fcs
BC gone fcs
SYR gone fcs
Lou gone fcs
ND……indep
have these schools join fcs and have a 8 team play-in to get the 5th & 6th spot on a six team playoff.
1 & 2 get a bye
Or say fck it and do this.
Have 5 twelve team leagues.
--------------SEC
LSU
Bama
AU
ARK
MSU
UM
UF
UGA
TENN
VAN
KEN
USC
--------------Big 10
WIS
MINN
IOWA
ILL
NW
PUR
IND
OSU
MICH
MSU
PSU
add Pitt
-----------BI2
AGGY
TEX
TT
BAY
TCU
MIZZ
OU
OKSU
NEB
KAN
KSU
ISU
------------Pac 12
USC
UCLA
WASH
WSU
ORE
OSU
AZ
ASU
STAN
CAL
COLO
UTAH
---------ACC
Clem
MIA
GT
FSU
MARY
UNC
DUKE
WAKE
NCSU
UVA
VT
WVU
-------- defunct -Big East leftovers
RUT gone fcs
BC gone fcs
SYR gone fcs
Lou gone fcs
ND……indep
have these schools join fcs and have a 8 team play-in to get the 5th & 6th spot on a six team playoff.
1 & 2 get a bye
Or say fck it and do this.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:45 pm to USCrown
Im 100% in favor of scrapping it and increasing the rotation frequency we see the West schools.
Mississippi State isnt a rival for Kentucky. They are, in fact, probably my favorite West school. I root for the Bulldogs to do well generally. Other than those cowbells, they're some good baws.
Texas A&M entered the SEC in 2012. We wont see them play here in Lexington for the first time until 2025. That is absolutely and unequivocally fricking idiotic.
Mississippi State isnt a rival for Kentucky. They are, in fact, probably my favorite West school. I root for the Bulldogs to do well generally. Other than those cowbells, they're some good baws.
Texas A&M entered the SEC in 2012. We wont see them play here in Lexington for the first time until 2025. That is absolutely and unequivocally fricking idiotic.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:53 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Bingo...four schools are tying up the other ten with their stubborness. UA/UT and AU/UGA can deal with having an occasional off year playing each other. Id like to see Arkansas and Ole Miss more than once every six years. They can get the frick over waiting a year.
The funny thing is, if the SEC scrapped permanent x-div games, and increased conference games to 9 per season, it's not like AU would never play UGA again, or that Bama would never play Tenn again, but that's how fans of these teams seem to act.
Would the world really end if Bama stopped playing Tenn every year, and only played them every other year?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:54 pm to Stretch Suba
quote:Take your fake news elsewhere Nancy.
Ky and MSU like playing each other rather than tougher SEC foes.
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