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Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:06 am to AlmostForgotten
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:06 am to AlmostForgotten
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AlmostForgotten
Doesn't know the rules of college football.
This isn't the NFL where the QB is protected at all times.
Once Murray threw the INT...he is a defender and isn't protected as a defenseless player.
In the Elston case, hitting a WR who is catching the ball is considered hitting a defenseless player. And carries the rule with it that the defender can not hit any part of his helmet to the helmet of the WR. Any part.
And since Murray wasn't a defenseless player in the Dial hit, Dial IS allowed to hit any part of his helmet to Murray's EXCEPT the crown of the helmet. And Dial didn't use the crown of his helmet, so......CLEAN HIT. NO PENALTY.
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:07 am to lsusteve1
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see it for what it is.
A clean, legal play that was unnecessary
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:07 am to AlmostForgotten
Maybe we could start a foundation like Tide for Toomers - we'll donate funds to your favorite charity. Will you love us then?
Maybe you could just remain forgotten then, like now, no one would care.
Maybe you could just remain forgotten then, like now, no one would care.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:07 am to AlmostForgotten
It was kind of a cheap shot and unnecessary, but it was legal and Murray needs to remember that he is now on defense. I hope Bama plays hard like that against ND.
Roll Damn Tide.
Roll Damn Tide.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:07 am to AlmostForgotten
Good God. Ole Miss fans talking shite. *rolls eyes*
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:07 am to TreyAnastasio
I agree, Trey. I don't like when commissioners decide to ignore the actual rules on on-the-field play, and interpret things his own way and punish players. But that's within his power.
I also hate the way the NCAA punishes programs for things completely unrelated to football, according to their own sense of ethics and politics. The NCAA should govern athletics - no more, no less.
I also hate the way the NCAA punishes programs for things completely unrelated to football, according to their own sense of ethics and politics. The NCAA should govern athletics - no more, no less.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:08 am to bigpapamac
a nd fan said on facebook all the sec can burn in hell we have to pull for all our teams 
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:09 am to AlmostForgotten
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 9:10 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:10 am to stat19
Dial is getting the Nick Fairley treatment.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:11 am to lsusteve1
I mean I agree crying about makes you look like a sore loser but trying to deny the illegality of that hit just makes you look like a moron, which of course most of you are so it's really not a surprise.
I HATE the recent trend where defenders can not hit receivers and quarterbacks but there is never a scenario where it's legal to put the crown of your helmet into someone's earhole.
I HATE the recent trend where defenders can not hit receivers and quarterbacks but there is never a scenario where it's legal to put the crown of your helmet into someone's earhole.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:11 am to sawfiddle
Awesome
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:12 am to AlmostForgotten
We're all Irishmen now.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:12 am to sawfiddle
Clearly not helmet to helmet. He hits him with his forearm across the chest.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:12 am to KaiserSoze99
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It was kind of a cheap shot and unnecessary, but it was legal
Actually it's not a "legal" hit anymore. It's been a point of emphasis to not allow shots on the QB after INTs by the NCAA. It's the whole defenseless player rule. Unless he's actively involved in attempting to make a play (not just jogging in the direction of the play) no player can be hit from the blind side. Same rule in the NFL after the Saints knocked the shite out of Kurt Warner in the playoffs. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get suspended for it. And for the record I personally think it's just part of the game.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:13 am to RollTide1987
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It was a vicious hit and could have been called but Dial didn't launch and didn't lead with his head.
and wtf are you watching here? Look at the gif on the 2nd page and tell me he didn't do both.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:14 am to AlmostForgotten
but lord saban was so impressed by yall he is sending yall his left overs to stop the evil dern merlins
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:14 am to MontanaTiger
Look at the gif above. This is not opinion, it is a fact - he did NOT hit Murray with the crown of his helmet. He hit with his shoulder and the SIDE of his helmet.
It is physically impossible to "lead with your helmet" while facing away from the guy you're tackling. You just don't seem to understand what the rule is trying to eliminate.
It is physically impossible to "lead with your helmet" while facing away from the guy you're tackling. You just don't seem to understand what the rule is trying to eliminate.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:14 am to ibleedprplngld
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It's the whole defenseless player rule.
A defender getting blocked is not defenseless.
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no player can be hit from the blind side
Blind side? He hit him right in the freaking chest.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:14 am to AlmostForgotten
The Elston hit was H2H on a defenseless player -> illegal hit
The Dial hit was H2H but not a defenseless player -> legal hit
Even though Elston's hit was illegal, I didn't think he should've been suspended. I certainly don't think the SEC should be suspending players for legal hits like the one on Murray. No one should support that precedent being set.
If you think the rules should be changed to make QBs "defenseless players" after a turnover, fine, but that's not the way the rules are written in college football.
The Dial hit was H2H but not a defenseless player -> legal hit
Even though Elston's hit was illegal, I didn't think he should've been suspended. I certainly don't think the SEC should be suspending players for legal hits like the one on Murray. No one should support that precedent being set.
If you think the rules should be changed to make QBs "defenseless players" after a turnover, fine, but that's not the way the rules are written in college football.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 9:17 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:14 am to lsusteve1
the initial contact is the the crown of his helmet into murray's jaw.
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