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re: I'm the biggest Notre Dame fan for this 1 game
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:21 am to ibleedprplngld
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:21 am to ibleedprplngld
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Rule 9-1-4: Defenseless Player: Contact to Head or Neck Area
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area
of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder. When
in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6)
Had that happened it would have been a penalty.
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:21 am to RandySavage
I wouldn't chime in if I were you either after the MSB beatdown you took.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:21 am to FlukerFlakes
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Rule 9-1-4: Defenseless Player: Contact to Head or Neck Area
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area
of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder. When
in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6)
for you're reading pleasure
Yea Murray wasn't a defenseless player in any way, shape, or form.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:22 am to FlukerFlakes
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And since Murray wasn't a defenseless player in the Dial hit, Dial IS allowed to hit any part of his helmet to Murray's EXCEPT the crown of the helmet. And Dial didn't use the crown of his helmet, so......CLEAN HIT. NO PENALTY.
But the Elston hit caused a suspension, and its nowhere as blatant a hit as the one YOUR team laid on Murray. I'm just saying its getting fishy around here, thats all. Good luck, but GO Irish.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:23 am to Ray Ray Rodman
If you think it should have been a penalty, please explain which rule you think Bama player violated.
Go...
Go...
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:24 am to AlmostForgotten
Dude nobody gives a shite about Ole Miss or your DB. I know you made it to 6-6 this year and get to go to Birmingham for a bowl, but you're still completely irrelevant.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:24 am to AlmostForgotten
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But the Elston hit caused a suspension, and its nowhere as blatant a hit as the one YOUR team laid on Murray. I'm just saying its getting fishy around here, thats all. Good luck, but GO Irish.
That's because the Elston hit is ILLEGAL and the Dial hit isn't.
How hard is this to understand?
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:24 am to KaiserSoze99
He can't give you one because the rule doesn't exist.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 9:25 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:25 am to bigpapamac
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Last year in the title game when we whooped your arse we only had one penalty all night. Are the Big XII offices in Birmingham too?
The REC reach is further than we can ever imagine......
Like I said, here's to hoping they get plenty in the NC game. It would be great to see all of the whining on the Rant.
:it's my Christmas wish:
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:25 am to FlukerFlakes
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LEARN THE DAMN RULES
I'll say it again, the NCAA defines a defenseless player as any player not directly involved in the play, as in receivers not being thrown to, lineman jogging down the field on a run, ANY player that isn't in on the action per say. MURRAY JOGGING DOWN THE FIELD IS A DEFENSELESS PLAYER
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:25 am to AlmostForgotten
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But the Elston hit caused a suspension, and its nowhere as blatant a hit as the one YOUR team laid on Murray. I'm just saying its getting fishy around here, thats all. Good luck, but GO Irish
But do you understand that the Elston hit was illegal because a WR making a catch is defined as a defenseless player whereas the Dial hit was not illegal?
Surely you understand the relevance of that fact
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:25 am to bigpapamac
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nobody gives a shite about Ole Miss or your DB. I know you made it to 6-6 this year and get to go to Birmingham for a bowl
Dont hijack the thread, this is about the sec championship game. We all know your officiating sucks.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:26 am to TT9
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Rule 9-1-4: Defenseless Player: Contact to Head or Neck Area
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area
of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder. When
in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6)
Now, somebody get me a definition of a "defenseless player" so we can sort this out.
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I'll say it again, the NCAA defines a defenseless player as any player not directly involved in the play, as in receivers not being thrown to, lineman jogging down the field on a run, ANY player that isn't in on the action per say. MURRAY JOGGING DOWN THE FIELD IS A DEFENSELESS PLAYER
Murray was a defender preparing to make a tackle. He was not away from the play. The play was coming toward him. He was a potential tackler. He is a legal target.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 9:28 am
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:26 am to AlmostForgotten
Oh really? Because in your very own OP you put a picture of Elston and compared the two and you continue to bring him up.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:26 am to ibleedprplngld
Murray is standing less than 10 feet from the ball when he was hit. He was a defender. You see the other guy raise his arm? That because he was going to set up a block for Ha-ha to run around. Dial did the same thing.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:26 am to ibleedprplngld
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A defenseless player is defined as one not directly involved in a play, as in Murray jogging in the direction of the INT, so therefore he was a defenseless player and it should have been a penalty by rule. Now again, i disagree with the rule, but it is the rule.
No. Murray was at most 8 yards IN FRONT of the developing play. He was definitely blockable. Try again.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:27 am to KaiserSoze99
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somebody get me a definition of a "defenseless player" so we can sort this out.
All I know is that I've never heard of a defenseless defensive player.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:27 am to Tennessee Jed
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that was a disgrace, hopefully someone takes action and suspends him for the title game.
frick that. Alabama needs all hands on deck.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:27 am to Tennessee Jed
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the initial contact is the the crown of his helmet into murray's jaw.
you want to CRY about something....CRY about this...
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:28 am to ibleedprplngld
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I'll say it again, the NCAA defines a defenseless player as any player not directly involved in the play, as in receivers not being thrown to, lineman jogging down the field on a run, ANY player that isn't in on the action per say. MURRAY JOGGING DOWN THE FIELD IS A DEFENSELESS PLAYER
You need to go back and read the definition. The NCAA defines a defenseless player as someone who is obviously not involved in the play. Someone standing around 20 yards behind the play is obviously not involved in the play. Someone in front of the play and jogging toward the play is not obviously not involved in the play.
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