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re: I'm already blackpilled about college sports under NIL.

Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:09 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:09 am to
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College sports would once again be student athletes.

And in all likelihood, dead.
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:13 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:13 am to
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Now Sony, Apple, Amazon, Nike, etc…has a big say in college football simply by deciding they want X team to be loaded.


And piss off the other 120+ fan bases and risk boycotts because a company is picking and choosing their favorites?

This isn’t the pro’s where people are fans of individual players and their fantasy teams over their city for the most part.

I guarantee If Sony chooses a QB from Michigan, a lot of people both i Michigan, Ohio, and other Midwest states will actively not buy that product.

Same thing with Alabama and the south. Rivalries are different in college football. Before we predict doom and gloom and the complete destruction of the sport, let’s see if these companies will actually invest in this and if they continue to do so.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:20 am to
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And in all likelihood, dead.


Bullshait.

D3 football is scholarship-free and thrives on small campuses. Some freaking high schools put thousands of fans in the stands every night.

Fans of college football aren't fans of the player, they're fans of the school/program. The stadiums would be just as full and the ratings just as high. The only thing really different is it would get a bit whiter.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 7:21 am
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17877 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:24 am to
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All they were asking for was a stipend to help pay bills. But idiots all over lost their shite every time it was brought up.


Should have given them their stipend.
sounds good in theory, but this was going to happen even with stipends.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:28 am to
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College sports would once again be student athletes


Well this just sounds awful? I can’t wait to see DBs that run a 4.8. Lol
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:29 am to
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The local endorsements and sponsorships I am seeing are just legalized booster payments to players.

This shite is stupid. College sports are ruined.


Yes and no.

Why shouldn’t Livvy Dunne with her beautiful face and 1.1M followers be able to make 50-100k a post on Instagram? Just like everyone else that’s got the same?

I have no problem with any of it. As long as schools don’t have to start spending money. Hope they finally allow baseball to get full scholarships and another coach.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:29 am to
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The stadiums would be just as full and the ratings just as high. The only thing really different is it would get a bit whiter.


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Bullshait
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:30 am to
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Hope they finally allow baseball to get full scholarships and another coach.


Title IX baw
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:31 am to
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Basketball isn't the popular sport in college. Football is.


He wasn't suggesting basketball was more popular but it is easier to see an ROI on a player.

In football you might give a kid $25k but truth is you need to do that about 30 times and still have a few big pay days (100kish) plus another group of small ones (1k handshakes).

In basketball you can spread that money around to 1 or 2 players and you suddenly have a final four team. The reason shoe companies were paying kids in HS 300k through coaches and agents is because if you do that twice or three times a year and once every 10 years you happen to find Kobe or Lebron then you make that investment back 20 fold over the next 10 years. It's simple math.

At the end of the day paying a basketball player is a lower risk endeavor when compared to paying a football player.

Also, Nike and Adidas were named in the FBI sting a few years back. Big companies are already involved in this thing.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 7:34 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:32 am to
I see the problem is going to be the kids who want to sit out now because they are “rich” and pull an Aaron Rogers and don’t show up for practice. That’s going to be my big problem. Also how long until one has a podcast and the 5th string 5 star running back says Saban won’t play him because racism, and that’s going to happen.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50340 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:32 am to
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This is insane.


Agree, it shows how much players were getting frickED before. Leaving so much money on the table.

This is what players deserve.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:33 am to
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Title IX baw


Then what’s going to happen is 11.7 players get full scholarships and the rest get sponsorships that cover the rest and the softball programs still get screwed.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14077 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:34 am to
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The absolute best thing in the world that could come of this is to destroy the current model completely.

Get rid of the athletic scholarship (which also pretty much ends a lot of Title IX). You want to play sports, you have to apply and get accepted like anyone else. You have to earn an academic scholarship or pay your own way.

The NCAA's role becomes ensuring academic progress is being made and admissions are being treated equally - cut a corner to get a kid in school or commit academic fraud and that sport gets SMU'd.

College sports would once again be student athletes.


I would agree that the current model has always needed corrections. The NIL has managed to skip over Title IX. The supreme court just ruled in favor of showing economic favoritism to whomever the schools want to show favoritism to.


The rest, I could never see actually happen. These schools want to win and they have as much pride in that success as anyone. That's what all the cheating has been about for the last 100 years. They aren't going to suddenly go all academic on us when there are championships to be won.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:34 am to
How many sponsorships will be based on playing time?incentive based for stats?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:35 am to
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Fans of college football aren't fans of the player, they're fans of the school/program.


I will agree with this. I'm a fan of LSU because that is where I got my degree from. I think part of what makes college sports so enjoyable to me is seeing the players that have the same love for the university representing LSU on the field. I am almost completely off of pro sports. Don't watch the NBA or MLB, and I watched Drew Brees' last game. But college I watch football, basketball, and baseball regularly.

The NIL stuff does have the potential to swing this in the direction of professional sports, but I don't understand how the NCAA can tell a player that they cannot make money of their own name. Like the LSU gymnast that had 4 million instagram followers, or whatever it is.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18375 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:37 am to
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Just wait until HS kids gets endorsement deals





I can’t imagine being a HS teacher with a teenager in class making a million bucks because he can catch a football. Imagine trying to get him to write an essay on Lord of the Flies.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:37 am to
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I see the problem is going to be the kids who want to sit out now because they are “rich” and pull an Aaron Rogers and don’t show up for practice. That’s going to be my big problem. Also how long until one has a podcast and the 5th string 5 star running back says Saban won’t play him because racism, and that’s going to happen.



1. Why would the company endorse a guy who’s not playing? That’s a really irrational fear.
2. The 2nd fear is going to happen regardless of them getting paid. That’s just the world we live in now. If you don’t like something cry sexism or racism.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:39 am to
I can’t wait for the 30 for 30 going broke. How DaWhitestEva Smith made 5m in high school and college and is working the corner with a tin can.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:40 am to
Just wait until the State appropriates money to "endorse" an "initiative".

Want a chance to win a Million Dollars? Come on down and buy a ticket from a Bama baw for the scholarship lottery.

This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 7:45 am
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