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If you were a head baseball coach, what reason(s) would you leave for another university?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:36 pm
Is it entirely money/fringe benefits?
Genuinely curious.
I’m thinkin’ (hopin’) we’ll be replacing our head baseball coach after the season ends. And I realized I’m not at all up to speed on baseball hires du jour.
Seems like baseball coaching changes are vastly different than football hires. The numbers of games alone are crazy dissimilar (n=56 vs. n=12/13). Then you have the MLB draft that often draws recruits away from college ball. It’s a wild chess game.
What makes a coach jump from one school to another? Who are the popular baseball hires right now?
Genuinely curious.
I’m thinkin’ (hopin’) we’ll be replacing our head baseball coach after the season ends. And I realized I’m not at all up to speed on baseball hires du jour.
Seems like baseball coaching changes are vastly different than football hires. The numbers of games alone are crazy dissimilar (n=56 vs. n=12/13). Then you have the MLB draft that often draws recruits away from college ball. It’s a wild chess game.
What makes a coach jump from one school to another? Who are the popular baseball hires right now?
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 8:40 pm
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:38 pm to EKG
Combination of money, what tier of program you’re at, and where you want to be.
It’s not uncommon for baseball coaches to try to get gigs at their alma mater.
It’s not uncommon for baseball coaches to try to get gigs at their alma mater.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:39 pm to EKG
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Who are the popular baseball hires right now?
Hire PAWL.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:41 pm to EKG
Not just money and benefits, but the kind of support you could expect from that university and if they will give you the kind of commitment to winning you need. A young coach in particular who is thinking about his career and future would be more worried about the latter than the salary.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:43 pm to EKG
If we had a fan that came to every game that had an annoying whistle. I don’t understand why fans can’t at least find a way to make noise that brings joy to everyone... you know, something like a cowbell.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:44 pm to viceman
College baseball also has the whole partial scholarship deal which makes certain schools more attractive to bring in players
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:59 pm to Sun God
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College baseball also has the whole partial scholarship deal which makes certain schools more attractive to bring in players
I’m not following.
Could (would) you provide an example?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:06 pm to EKG
AU/UA will always struggle to retain a good coach due to our stupid state laws limiting scholarships.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:07 pm to Sun God
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College baseball also has the whole partial scholarship deal which makes certain schools more attractive to bring in players
This is an important consideration because it melds into a larger issue.. recruiting and recruiting base. I would think A&M could attract a strong coach because of the strength and numbers of Texas high school baseball. But recruiting is apparently something a lot of baseball coaches don't like to do... so you need a strong back-up AD and overall program especially when offering 1/2 or 1/4 scholarship.. because of total scholarship limits imposed by Title IX (see below).
The real issue in recruiting is probably pitching... most high school arms go to minor leagues where the pro coaches are careful to develop them. Colleges have (or had) the reputation of not giving a rats about their pitcher's arms. In the bad old days, many a promising pitcher was overused to get to Omaha.. (I'm looking right up the I-10 road about 90 miles when I say that.)
*NCAA - "each team being allowed to offer a maximum of (11.7) scholarships. Under NCAA rules, these 11.7 scholarships can be divided between a maximum of 27 players, with all players on athletic scholarship having to receive a minimum of a 25% scholarship."
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:12 pm to Sun God
That’s a great link, Sun God. I’m a big college baseball fan (so I thought!), and I was unaware.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:13 pm to EKG
1) Active fanbase to get your name out there. You want a school that is big on their college baseball. The more your name is mentioned the better. And who wants to coach at a place with empty bleachers?
2) Climate. If the weather is cold all the way through May, I would consider going south where it starts getting warm in February.
3) and as per usual, depends on the money a school has allocated toward the program. No one wants to stay at a place with subpar facilities.
2) Climate. If the weather is cold all the way through May, I would consider going south where it starts getting warm in February.
3) and as per usual, depends on the money a school has allocated toward the program. No one wants to stay at a place with subpar facilities.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:13 pm to Jacknola
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In the bad old days, many a promising pitcher was overused to get to Omaha.. (I'm looking right up the I-10 road about 90 miles when I say that.)
What travel ball team you talking about?
You just can’t help yourself
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:14 pm to EKG
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:19 pm to Jacknola
Jacknola, I love your post.
I’m intrigued.
How does/can the AD make a difference?
Why would a collegiate coach care less about a pitcher’s arm than would ab MLB farm league coach?
If I’m a pitcher who has a rocket for an arm, would it not behoove me to put in some work for two years in a collegiate rotation (e.g., Arkansas) with other arms like mine, rather than playing with the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders?
I’m intrigued.
How does/can the AD make a difference?
Why would a collegiate coach care less about a pitcher’s arm than would ab MLB farm league coach?
If I’m a pitcher who has a rocket for an arm, would it not behoove me to put in some work for two years in a collegiate rotation (e.g., Arkansas) with other arms like mine, rather than playing with the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:21 pm to starkvingrad
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2) Climate. If the weather is cold all the way through May, I would consider going south where it starts getting warm in February.
Not sure why, but I didn’t think of this obvious variable.
Hugely underrated.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:21 pm to EKG
Titties.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:23 pm to EKG
The top talent goes to the minors typically.
They’re making big money and have much more coaching than what is offered in college ball where you can only have three (I think?) coaches
They’re making big money and have much more coaching than what is offered in college ball where you can only have three (I think?) coaches
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:23 pm to UKWildcats
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Titties.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:24 pm to EKG
Yep, there is a reason the best college baseball programs are concentrated in the sun belt of the US. PAC and SEC own the place.
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