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re: If you clone Saban and give him to each member of the big 6, who is the best?
Posted on 3/31/16 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 3/31/16 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
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5- Bama/AU- This is just completely due to them Sharing a state with two schools with Saban. All else even it makes it a huge disadvantage in this scenario
This rationale is why we know you dont understand this rivalry, just like you don't understand the basis of "Heisman moments" importance of winning he Heisman.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:05 pm to lsupride87
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2. LSU
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5- Bama
It would be nice if we already had a smaller sample to base a prediction on. Oh, I don't know, maybe 5 years at each school?

Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:09 pm to BamaGradinTn
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It would be nice if we already had a smaller sample to base a prediction on. Oh, I don't know, maybe 5 years at each school?
It would also be nice if, I don't know, you read the OP and understood what the thread was asking
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:09 pm to lsupride87
quote:They would all be average and probably lose to the lower schools alot. They would all be buying the top recruits and split the talent. Saban can't win without a big talent gap. There isn't enough 5 stars to go around.
So if Saban is cloned and coached at each of the Big 6 schools at the same time, who has the best 10 year run?
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:16 pm to lsupride87
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insecure Texans, A&M would be #2 on list if included
A&M is probably #4. The state is still wedded to the Big 12. Families are also more affluent and transient than those in other SEC West states.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:22 pm to lsufball19
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It would also be nice if, I don't know, you read the OP and understood what the thread was asking
Duhhhh...given the fact that in all the situations mentioned, the coach isn't a variable, so it all comes down to all the other factors mentioned, and all five of Saban's 5 year periods at Alabama have been more successful than his only five year period at LSU. So yeah, there's some evidence to base a prediction on, even if a cloned Saban wasn't coaching at every other school. I'm sorry if that was confusing for you.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:24 pm to lsupride87
OK - I accept your scenario.
What's the arrangement at each school? Does he get the same contractual agreement? Does he get full control of facilities, personnel, schedules, media appearances, boosters, etc., that Saban has at Bama? Because you can't measure the significance of the blank check he was given when he came to Bama in the beginning.
And a lot of that influenced his decision to leave L5U in the first place for Miami, and heavily influenced his decision to leave Miami for Bama.
What's the arrangement at each school? Does he get the same contractual agreement? Does he get full control of facilities, personnel, schedules, media appearances, boosters, etc., that Saban has at Bama? Because you can't measure the significance of the blank check he was given when he came to Bama in the beginning.
And a lot of that influenced his decision to leave L5U in the first place for Miami, and heavily influenced his decision to leave Miami for Bama.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:28 pm to lsupride87
Florida and Texas A&M would benefit the most, IMO.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:44 pm to DawgsLife
Saban or Saban clone or for that matter any head coach that worth his weight in dogshit would not make 10 yrs there.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Just wondering - how exactly would the top 4 be better than what Alabama has done? Undefeated every season? SEC Title every season? 8 National Titles? All 32 first round picks? Is there something better than #1 in recruiting?
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I hate bama lol
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:56 pm to lsupride87
During the last 25 years, history would favor Florida. Of the teams mentioned, even if you exclude their best coach during that period, Florida has enjoyed just a little more success than the others. Now I think Alabama would give them a heckuva run for their money each year. LSU Georgia Auburn and sooner or later, Tennessee, Would get back in the mixsomewhat.Probably in that order as well.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:25 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Duhhhh...given the fact that in all the situations mentioned, the coach isn't a variable, so it all comes down to all the other factors mentioned, and all five of Saban's 5 year periods at Alabama have been more successful than his only five year period at LSU. So yeah, there's some evidence to base a prediction on, even if a cloned Saban wasn't coaching at every other school. I'm sorry if that was confusing for you.
Sabans 1st and only 5 years at LSU
2 sec titles and 1 national title
Sabans 1st 5 years at Bama
1 Sec title and 2 national titles
That doesn't even take into context the improvement in him as a coach over the time span
So no, you are incorrect with the "facts" you thought you brought here
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:34 pm to lsupride87
Let me break it down further for the inbreds
Sabans 1st year at both schools
Push. Both won lower tier bowls
Sabans 2nd year at both schools
LSU wins. Kiss the SEC title ring
Sabans 3rd year
Bama wins. National champs and sec champs
Sabans 4th year
LSU wins. National champs and sec champs
Sabans 5th year
Bama wins. National champs only
So LSU better twice
Bama better twice
Push one year
I don't even know why this head comes to this. The op should not have brought out anger in any fanbase.
Sabans 1st year at both schools
Push. Both won lower tier bowls
Sabans 2nd year at both schools
LSU wins. Kiss the SEC title ring
Sabans 3rd year
Bama wins. National champs and sec champs
Sabans 4th year
LSU wins. National champs and sec champs
Sabans 5th year
Bama wins. National champs only
So LSU better twice
Bama better twice
Push one year
I don't even know why this head comes to this. The op should not have brought out anger in any fanbase.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:38 pm to lsupride87
When Saban was hired at Bama some people were saying he would not have the same success he had while at LSU. I said are you kidding me, this is BAMA we are talking about. He will have much greater success and he has. Bama is the best football program in the SEC hands down and it would be number 1 in this scenario as well. Keep in mind before Bear got to Bama they were still the most successful program in the SEC, and what he did was ensure that as a program they would always be at the top. Sure they have had some dry spells, but no different than other schools. I truly believe that one of the main reasons for that is, Football is just a little more important at Bama than any other school.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:27 pm to amders44
Then why did Alabama need Nick Saban, the best, to be the best? Alabama still needs a coaching advantage. On a level playing field with coaching, Alabama has not shown that they'll be better than everyone else. They have shown with saban they'll outspend everyone else to ensure he stays put. If you have coaching remain a constant for all schools, it really comes down to what school is in the best recruiting area with the least amount of competition. I think Georgia and Florida trump everyone.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 7:30 pm to lsupride87
Bama Saban would beat the shite out of the other Big Five cloned Sabans. The system is in place, the process is rolling, and Bama Saban would have an uncatchable head start on the clones. Bama Saban would go 15-0, the clones would go anywhere from 12-1 to 9-4. These records include the bowl games against teams not named Utah and Oklahoma.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 9:16 pm to TexAgChill
Now your just being stupid and trying to piss LSU fans off. I applaud your effort though 

Posted on 3/31/16 at 10:29 pm to Rabern57
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Saban can't win without a big talent gap
No one knows this you unemployed handicap, because he has always had more talent. Recruiting is an important, no the most important part of being a college coach.

What did you major in at Auburn? Sounds like cuckoldry if you ask me.

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