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If Saban had started 5-7, 7-6, 9-4, and 9-4, would Bama fans had kept him?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:00 pm
Let's see if the hindsight Bama fans can answer a simple question:
Would you guys had kept Saban if he started out 5-7, 7-6, 9-4, and 9-4?
It's a simple question. Don't kill the OP. Thanks.
Would you guys had kept Saban if he started out 5-7, 7-6, 9-4, and 9-4?
It's a simple question. Don't kill the OP. Thanks.
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:02 pm to ForeverGator
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If Saban had started 5-7, 7-6, 9-4, and 9-4, would Bama fans had kept him? by ForeverGator
Saban with his track record at LSU? Yes, probably would have kept him for a 5th year. He would have been on the hot seat though.
It also would matter how he was performing against Auburn/LSU/Tennessee. If he was losing all those games I'm not sure he'd make it, especially on the heels of Shula's record against them.
However, if year 5 started and it was clear we were no better than we were in year 2 then I think things were turn ugly pretty quickly.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You guys rid of Mike Shula 2 years after he went 10-2 and won the Cotton Bowl...
Those sanctions didn't come til later... so can't blame the cheating.
Those sanctions didn't come til later... so can't blame the cheating.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:14 pm to ForeverGator
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You guys rid of Mike Shula 2 years after he went 10-2 and won the Cotton Bowl...
No, we fired Mike Shula after he finished 6-6, went 0-4 vs Auburn, 0-4 vs LSU, and 1-3 vs Tennessee. He had exactly one season in which he finished better than .500, and even then he couldn’t beat Auburn or LSU.
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Those sanctions didn't come til later... so can't blame the cheating.
What? Sanctions were handed down in February of 2002, which included 5 years probation, a 2 year bowl ban, and severe scholarship restrictions. Shula wasn’t hired until 2003.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:16 pm to ForeverGator
No, because a great coach wouldn't have that type of record at Alabama. Fran, Shula, and Dubose each had 10 win seasons within their first three seasons.
If Saban had failed to achieve one 10 win season in his first four years, it would've been a clear sign of a brain tumor, and we would have done the right thing by letting him go to receive appropriate medical care.
If Saban had failed to achieve one 10 win season in his first four years, it would've been a clear sign of a brain tumor, and we would have done the right thing by letting him go to receive appropriate medical care.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:16 pm to ForeverGator
In this scenario does nick have butter teeth?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:23 pm to Atxgump
No, but he does look like a tomato when he gets mad in this scenario. (hint hint)
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:24 pm to ForeverGator
I think if Saban would have had a 9 win average over his first 5 years, the Bama people would be calling for his head and probably get him to resign, and then they would move on to the next sacrificial lamb.
Mal Moore lucked out on his timing to get Saban.
Mal Moore lucked out on his timing to get Saban.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:28 pm to KiwiHead
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I think if Saban would have had a 9 win average over his first 5 years, the Bama people would be calling for his head and probably get him to resign, and then they would move on to the next sacrificial lamb.
You could replace Saban with any coach and this statement would be close to true regardless. There are variables to consider (record against AU & UT), but there is no reason at a place like Bama - with all the resources a coach could need and the history to prove that ANY coach can win 10 games at least once - for a legit great coach to not average at least 9 wins at Bama.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:29 pm to KiwiHead
Mal knee better than to come back to town without Saban. He’d have just had to have just live out his life in South Beach.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:30 pm to Tuscaloosa
They may have kept him but he would have had similar to seasons that the rest of the upper SEC had.
Alabama would not have had the success they had in recruiting if that was results in his first 4 seasons.
That alone is what perpetuated their continued success.
Saban has basically been coaching the unanimous #1 recruiting class in the country since yr #3. It's not that all 5 star recruits are guarantees, but they are statistically more likely to be productive.
In our case, his record was a double edged sword for us. Not only did he recruit really well and build Alabama's roster, but MANY of those 4 and 5 star recruits were Louisiana boys that could and should have been Tigers.
Alabama would not have had the success they had in recruiting if that was results in his first 4 seasons.
That alone is what perpetuated their continued success.
Saban has basically been coaching the unanimous #1 recruiting class in the country since yr #3. It's not that all 5 star recruits are guarantees, but they are statistically more likely to be productive.
In our case, his record was a double edged sword for us. Not only did he recruit really well and build Alabama's roster, but MANY of those 4 and 5 star recruits were Louisiana boys that could and should have been Tigers.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:32 pm to ForeverGator
Something AU fans are struggling with. Can we find someone better than Gus? There is exactly one Saban in the country. You let Urban walk. If not careful, you turn into UT.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:35 pm to AUCE05
I think Auburn absolutely can (and should) do better than Gus. Coach Dye wanted you to hire Kirby. You should have listened to him.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:36 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Kirby was destined for Georgia, unfortunately. He waited until that job opened up while learning from the devil. Good on him. He was probably contacted by Auburn for all we know in their hiring search. He was the target for a lot of teams and turned them down.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:37 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Who tho? There is no one one the market that is a lock. I sure as hell don’t want a Butch Jones hire.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:38 pm to AUCE05
Leach, Kelly, Frost... those would be good hires this offseason.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:40 pm to AUCE05
I would stay away from hiring the ‘Guru’ types on Offesnse. Get a guy that knows Defense.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:46 pm to RT1941
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Mal knee better than to come back to town without Saban. He’d have just had to have just live out his life in South Beach.
He would've just had to live...
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:59 pm to TidalSurge1
Nick woulda been doing a lotta duck shite watching
Posted on 10/23/17 at 6:06 pm to ForeverGator
How would Gator fans feel if McElwain had won the East his first two seasons and had an offense consistently ranked in the 100's?
TBD?
TBD?
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