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If Nick Saban would have coached at UGA
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:19 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:19 am
If Nick Saban somehow had started coaching at UGA in 2007, would he have won more titles or less?
For some reason Georgia has as good of or a better natural recruiting geography as/than Alabama. However, we have something more special at UA -- the realistic desire and expectations to win that are unmatched at any program in the country. It is truly a birthright among Alabama fans.
That combination of Nick Saban and our natural winning attitudes have made our program a perennial elite program even when we have coaches like Mike Shula.
But on talent alone, I believe Saban could have won more at Georgia and made Richt and Bowlcut look more like the Ray Goff's of the world.
Thoughts?
For some reason Georgia has as good of or a better natural recruiting geography as/than Alabama. However, we have something more special at UA -- the realistic desire and expectations to win that are unmatched at any program in the country. It is truly a birthright among Alabama fans.
That combination of Nick Saban and our natural winning attitudes have made our program a perennial elite program even when we have coaches like Mike Shula.
But on talent alone, I believe Saban could have won more at Georgia and made Richt and Bowlcut look more like the Ray Goff's of the world.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:24 am to Rogelio
By this point, I think it's safe to assume that Saban could win titles at pretty much any major program, given enough time and resources.
The number though? That's really hard to say, because there are so many random factors that go into it, like who the coaches at the other schools would have been, which players went where, and even other teams losing to knock themselves out of contention.
The number though? That's really hard to say, because there are so many random factors that go into it, like who the coaches at the other schools would have been, which players went where, and even other teams losing to knock themselves out of contention.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:26 am to Rogelio
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That combination of Nick Saban and our natural winning attitudes have made our program a perennial elite program even when we have coaches like Mike Shula.
This sentence makes no sense.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:27 am to Rogelio
The only program Saban would have won six titles is Alabama. The right coach, the right program, at the right time. He would have won some at others, but not six.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:28 am to Rogelio
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However, we have something more special at UA -- the realistic desire and expectations to win that are unmatched at any program in the country. It is truly a birthright among Alabama fans.
All of this does nothing to actually win games.
Saban would've had similar success at any program that gave him the resources, look at what he did with LSU.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:35 am to SidewalkTiger
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All of this does nothing to actually win games.
Sure it does. MJ's greatest gift is that every time he had the ball in his hands it was like the opponent was holding his grandmother for ransom. The desire and collective will matter most.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:35 am to Nitro Express
Saban would have won more than 6 at Notre Dame.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:36 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Saban would have won more than 6 at Notre Dame.
No. Lately they've done great with ok talent but that's about it.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:37 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Saban would have won more than 6 at Notre Dame.
Of course he would have!
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:38 am to Rogelio
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No. Lately they've done great with ok talent but that's about it.
So they have done great with ok talent but would not do any better with the great talent Saban would bring?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:38 am to Rogelio
Yes, Saban and Alabama are good at football. Congratulations.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:39 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Saban would have won more than 6 at Notre Dame
Possible. Maybe not more than six, but a lot.
A team like Notre Dame is going to get propped up enough that there would simply be more opportunities to win titles, IMO.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 11:40 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:39 am to bamameister
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The desire and collective will matter most.
The sad thing is that you are likely trolling but the majority of your fanbase actually thinks Alabama wins because of something they do.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:40 am to paperwasp
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A team like Notre Dame is going to get propped up enough that there would simply be more opportunities to win titles, IMO.
That's what I was thinking. It might not be more than 6 but I think it would be very close.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 11:41 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:41 am to paperwasp
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A team like Notre Dame is going to get propped up enough that there would simply be more opportunities to win titles, IMO.
Even more than Alabama? Not likely.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:42 am to SidewalkTiger
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The sad thing is that you are likely trolling but the majority of your fanbase actually thinks Alabama wins because of something they do.
Actually, the fan base being super fanatical about football would be part of the collective will. Would I troll a troller?
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 11:44 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:45 am to SidewalkTiger
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The sad thing is that you are likely trolling but the majority of your fanbase actually thinks Alabama wins because of something they do.
Why is that trolling?
And why do so many LSU fans on tRant do go along with the idea that the expectations of the fans do in fact drive success for a program? I don't disagree with them at all.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:49 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Saban would have won more than 6 at Notre Dame.
I could be convinced of this. At ND, Saban would have been given the benefit of the doubt on every occasion possible. ND would probably make the playoff not even winning a division or playing for a conference championship. Could also get rematches or something crazy. The media would bend over backwards for them and they would not face the obstacles placed in their way that Alabama has had to overcome.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:50 am to Rogelio
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And why do so many LSU fans on tRant do go along with the idea that the expectations of the fans do in fact drive success for a program? I don't disagree with them at all.
Fan expectations do drive success to a degree, but no more at a place like Georgia or LSU than Alabama.
Fan expectations simply force the administration to spend money on athletics, gettting a good return is really based on who runs your specific program.
Luckily for Alabama, they got the GOAT to run their program for the time being.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:51 am to dirtsandwich
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At ND, Saban would have been given the benefit of the doubt on every occasion possible. ND would probably make the playoff not even winning a division or playing for a conference championship. Could also get rematches or something crazy. The media would bend over backwards for them and they would not face the obstacles placed in their way that Alabama has had to overcome.
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