re: If MSU beats UGA Saturday

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or......maybe it was just a dumb question

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That was kinda what I trying to get at, VC.

We all know you guys never want Mullen to leave as long as he is doing the best with what he has.

Likewise, we are thus far happy with Kirby and the loss of a single game won't change the mindset of anyone except a knee-jerker.

Dumb question to ask either fan base.

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forced those in Clark County to say that they had enough

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It's Clarke. Nobody that makes decisions about Georgia football lives in Athens. Take a lap.

Are we really getting to the point where we're firing coaches in less than two years? It's idiotic. A new coach should be give at least 5 years.

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Whether or not Kirby is successful or not is based on a single criteria. He must win it all. Richt was perfectly capable of reeling off a ten win season. Under the previous staff Georgia did well enough that few teams would have terminated the contract.

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I disagree, I would be happy if Kirby just didn't lose games he should win handily.

Richt was fired for this:

2009: Loss to Kentucky
2010: Losses to Colorado and Central Florida
2011: Loss to Boise State
2012: Blowout loss to South Carolina
2013: Loss to Vanderbilt

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Kirby smart might not be a good coach

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He is Ray Goff Part II

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Jake_LaMotta

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sorry to hear about your passing, Raging Bull.

RIP

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I think everyone should agree with that. Talented or not, limited experience could definitely swing the game. It would only take one or two poor judgement calls, and you would think that is likely to happen with a qb called up unexpectedly with such little game time xp.

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I think if we do lose a close one, it will definitely be due to one or two turnovers from (or caused by) Fromm. We saw a little of that in South Bend. The good news for him is that he seems to shake it off very well. He doesn't dwell on it.

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Nobody will say that at this point. It's pretty embarrassing to admit you just fired the coach with the highest win percentage in school history..., and hired Ray Goff 2.0. So we'll keep Smart for another 5 or 6 years until the wheels completely come off, and then suddenly everyone will insist that they always knew Smart wasn't a good hire.

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Your schtick doesn't change. I guess we can give you that. Perhaps a better question is this: If UGA wins this weekend, what is your opinion of Kirby then? Is this a "good win"? Is this the kind of game that Mark Richt would have won... Is Kirby still Ray Goff 2.0?

Here's the thing man. No one denies that Mark Richt was a good to great coach. He still is the most consistently successful coach we have ever had. That doesn't mean it wasn't his time to go.

Here are some telling signs that Richt's best days were behind him at UGA:

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Georgia hasn’t won an SEC title since 2005.

Georgia has played for the SEC title only twice since then, the same number of times as Missouri, which entered the SEC in 2012.

Eight times since Richt took over in Athens, an SEC team has won the national championship; in that same time Georgia has yet to play for one.

Georgia has a 16-9 record vs. Power 5 opponents in Richt's last three seasons prior to his final season in which he was fired.

Under Richt Georgia was 14-21 vs. ranked teams since 2008 (through mid October of 2015... don't feel like looking up the remainder).

Since 2008, when Georgia’s decline under Richt began, the Bulldogs finished the season unranked (three) more often than they have finished ranked in the top 10 (two).

Georgia has suffered a loss by at least 18 points in nine of Richt's last 10 seasons.

Georgia failed to show up as an almost two-touchdown favorite against a bad Florida team in 2014, losing 38-20. Then followed this up with an asinine decision to start Faton Bauta at Florida the following year. This is problematic on two fronts. One, Richt was left 5-10 against the Gators. Two, Richt’s teams have come to suffer at least one head-scratching loss per season as a considerable favorite. In 2014, it was Florida and South Carolina. In 2013, it was Missouri and Vanderbilt. In 2012, inarguably his "best" season since the 2005 SEC Championship run, it was a brutal loss to South Carolina.

All of this despite having an average recruiting ranking of 8th since 2008, according to 24/7 Sports, and a dazzling array of individual talent including Matthew Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, AJ Green, Orson Charles, Jarvis Jones, Justin Houston, Alec Ogletree, Bacarri Rambo, Todd Gurley and now Nick Chubb.

** Modified from an article in 2015... some discrepancies may be possible.

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It's early still, so *I* am reserving judgement on this team. Something you have proven to be incapable of doing. What I will say, is that even with Parrish out, this defense looks better than anything we fielded in Richt's final seasons. And the offense, while by no means impressive, looks better than where he left it with Squattenheimer. I'll take my chances with Kirby's ability to get the Jimmies and Joes... still think Chaney was a poor choice as OC, but I'll leave the jury out on him for now... he's done a handful of smarter things this season than last. Uncertain that he'll be able to be better than middling though.