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re: If Johnny Manziel doesn't win another Heisman, is it out of spite?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:48 am to LSUJuice
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:48 am to LSUJuice
quote:I have been more impressed with Mett than Murray from what i have seen. I think they are both awesome and equal players, but some of the throws Mett makes are fantastic. Just remember, you say Mett missed his moment by losing this game. Just three short weeks ago Murray lost by 3....
i know i will get bashed for this
As you should
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Mettenberger has been more impressive than Murray
No
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and McCarron
Maybe. But who cares. He had his one (slim) chance for a "moment" at Georgia, and he missed it.
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
Fair enough....
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
LSU couldn't run the ball because LSU couldn't run the ball, had nothing to do with the clock.
the game literally ended with 4 consecutive whiffs from mettenberger.
Yes, some of mettenbergers passes looked damn good. but some didn't. enough didn't that his team lost the game. Sure its tough lose ground on a personal award because of a team performance, but unlike JFF, who played out of his mind good against Alabama, we are left with a game in which Mettenberger could have done more, and his failure to do more cost his team the game.
Sure, if LSU wins out and Mettenberger looks dominant the rest of the way he can win the heisman, but we have no reason to believe either of those things will happen.
the game literally ended with 4 consecutive whiffs from mettenberger.
Yes, some of mettenbergers passes looked damn good. but some didn't. enough didn't that his team lost the game. Sure its tough lose ground on a personal award because of a team performance, but unlike JFF, who played out of his mind good against Alabama, we are left with a game in which Mettenberger could have done more, and his failure to do more cost his team the game.
Sure, if LSU wins out and Mettenberger looks dominant the rest of the way he can win the heisman, but we have no reason to believe either of those things will happen.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:53 am to BearBait09
quote:I can respect people having a different opinion, especially between Murray and Mett because they are so similiar. But to put this loss on Mett is ridiculous. I guess you put the Clemson loss on Murray since he had an int.
LSU couldn't run the ball because LSU couldn't run the ball, had nothing to do with the clock.
the game literally ended with 4 consecutive whiffs from mettenberger.
Yes, some of mettenbergers passes looked damn good. but some didn't. enough didn't that his team lost the game. Sure its tough lose ground on a personal award because of a team performance, but unlike JFF, who played out of his mind good against Alabama, we are left with a game in which Mettenberger could have done more, and his failure to do more cost his team the game.
Sure, if LSU wins out and Mettenberger looks dominant the rest of the way he can win the heisman, but we have no reason to believe either of those things will happen.
ETA: With 1:45 left on the clock you cant run the ball.
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 10:55 am
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:58 am to lsupride87
again, for the rushing thing, LSU stat line for the game was 2.1 yards/rush for 77 total rushing yards.
the rushing game was dead and not an option. how is this unclear?
for the sake of argument I conceed the Clemson loss is Murray's fault.
which makes Murray 2-1 in big games this year
Mettenberger is 0-1
the rushing game was dead and not an option. how is this unclear?
for the sake of argument I conceed the Clemson loss is Murray's fault.
which makes Murray 2-1 in big games this year
Mettenberger is 0-1
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 11:00 am
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:00 am to lsupride87
I don't think he was putting the loss squarely on Mett. It's obvious there were several things you can point at. He's just saying Mett had a chance to make a play and didn't....
That said, to the original topic of the tread, Manziel seems to have a lot more competition this year than last. It's Murray, Boyd, Mariotta as opposed to fricking Collin Klein and Manti Teo. I know it's early, and guys usually drop out of the race come October and November, but I could very easily see Johnny not win it because there are too many other guys around that he can lose votes to. And if the voters need a tie-breaker between multiple close contenders, you can bet that spite can and will have something to do with it.
That said, to the original topic of the tread, Manziel seems to have a lot more competition this year than last. It's Murray, Boyd, Mariotta as opposed to fricking Collin Klein and Manti Teo. I know it's early, and guys usually drop out of the race come October and November, but I could very easily see Johnny not win it because there are too many other guys around that he can lose votes to. And if the voters need a tie-breaker between multiple close contenders, you can bet that spite can and will have something to do with it.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:02 am to LSUJuice
Yes this. 
great year to be a fan of college football.
great year to be a fan of college football.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:06 am to BearBait09
At the end of the year, whoever was the SEC's best player should get the Heisman.
Let it play out, but Mariota and these other non-SEC Heisman hopefuls don't play against nearly the level of competition that the SEC has.
Hope Manziel continues to walk away from any taunting. Bama didn't appear to taunt him and that was a big game that reflected well on SEC sportsmanship.
Let it play out, but Mariota and these other non-SEC Heisman hopefuls don't play against nearly the level of competition that the SEC has.
Hope Manziel continues to walk away from any taunting. Bama didn't appear to taunt him and that was a big game that reflected well on SEC sportsmanship.
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 11:08 am
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:07 am to Maroon Flash
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Mariota and these other Heisman hopefuls don't play against nearly the level of competition that the SEC has
This isn't 2011
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:13 am to LSUJuice
Pac 12 is legit this year
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:14 am to bamabenny
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If he keeps up these stats, there is NO way he doesn't repeat.
this
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:15 am to BearBait09
Mariota, may be legit but does he have supernatural powers?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:19 am to Old Sarge
The best the PAC-12 has to offer would get their dick knocked in the dirt by any respectable SEC team.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:22 am to DWag215
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I expect Allen to be good, but the law of averages will likely prevent us from fielding consecutive QBs who transcend the game.
I think CGSC was referring to this guy:
Kyler Murray
If he ends up being as good as his Dad was for A&M, look out!
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:31 am to cramps
Yep, Kevin Murray was a true badass! Hope we get his son!
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:32 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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A young man from Allen may very well outdo Johnny Manziel's HS stats. He's already ahead of Manziel's JUNIOR YEAR stats.
I think Kyler Murray will be a fantastic college prospect, but the difference between Murray's Allen team and Manziel's Kerrville-Tivy team is laughable at best.
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