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re: If Auburn goes 0-8 again...

Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:45 am to
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:45 am to
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Seriously, I doubt we could afford it. Our horrible AD gave Gus a large buyout and extension last year. If he does go 0-8 and then starts off bad next year, he gone.


this, plus, I can't imagine that Gus won't be given a 2nd year with muschamp
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 7:32 am to
I agree. I've said this before, but Auburn has no business being as good as we typically are given our circumstances.

Gus won't get fired unless he losses the team, and only if we are ok with shoving out 9 million for a buy out because our AD likes to shower coaches with gold after one good season. He'll be around next year, and that's probably a good thing for us tbh.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:30 am to
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is Gus seriously not on the hot seat?




They'll turn on Gus so fast it'll make his head spin. Look at how fast they turned on every other coach they've ever had. There is no loyalty at Auburn, they just want to be Alabama.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:30 am to
The 0-8 wasn't the only reason the last coaching staff was sent packing. The problems were much bigger than simply loosing. There were a lot of signs pointing towards other issues in 2012 than we have now. Things do change, but if the team shows some fight the rest of the way he won't be fired even if they go 0-8.

As has been stated Gus may not be the long term answer but Auburn needs to stick to a plan for a bit. The constant turnover isn't good for Auburn and it reflects Bama's struggles pre-saban without the lowest of lows that are explained in this thread by the fact that Auburn's ability to be relevant is an accomplishment in and of itself.
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 8:32 am
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:31 am to
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I honestly think this game will set the tone for the rest of the season. It could go either way



Could be, but I sort of expect that we'll either win or lose in a close, mediocre fashion that doesn't show any sign of significant decline or improvement, and we'll be saying the same shite about the Arky game.

Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:33 am to
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Could be, but I sort of expect that we'll either win or lose in a close, mediocre fashion that doesn't show any sign of significant decline or improvement, and we'll be saying the same shite about the Arky game.


I agree. The team hasn't shown much reason to think they are going to figure things out. Defense seems closer than offense, but it sounds weird to say that post Tubbs.
Posted by colors_of_kings
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:34 am to
I still think Gus is a good coach and will figure it out. I say give him another year and see if he can recover.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:43 am to
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Could be, but I sort of expect that we'll either win or lose in a close, mediocre fashion that doesn't show any sign of significant decline or improvement, and we'll be saying the same shite about the Arky game.



I agree. There are glaring weaknesses on the team that aren't going to be solved in one game, and will most likely linger all season. And 2 of the glaring weaknesses are at spot you don't want to have them - QB and DL. Perhaps if Lawson returns it'll solve the DL issue somewhat.
Posted by MasCervezas
Ocean Springs
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:45 am to
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Cam actually WON a title


fixed
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 8:46 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:45 am to
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Look at how fast they turned on every other coach they've ever had


that horse collar fitting still hurts
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:47 am to
How did the entire country completely whiff on them? Many thought that they were the most legitimate SEC contender for the Playoffs. They are downright horrible and should have lost to Jacksonville State.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:49 am to
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Gus poured out a lot of pre-season koolaid.


He really did....That's the thing...he really talked up this team, Johnson, Boom etc. and then has woefully under-delivered.

Given his buy-out I can't imagine they would fire him this season him after the Chizik debacle. It's pretty unthinkable.
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 8:51 am
Posted by wdeagle
Member since Jun 2014
126 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:51 am to
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-2.5 against Kentucky is as good as being an underdog IMO.


Then your opinion is shite. While it is nothing to brag about, giving points to anyone means you are a favorite. That is a fact, and with facts, opinions means nothing.

The rest of your post seems correct. AU has collapsed this season. I am hoping for a turn around, starting tonight.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:53 am to
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I agree. There are glaring weaknesses on the team that aren't going to be solved in one game, and will most likely linger all season. And 2 of the glaring weaknesses are at spot you don't want to have them - QB and DL. Perhaps if Lawson returns it'll solve the DL issue somewhat.



I think if we opened up the playbook and if the QB (whoever it is) ran it well, it would both obviously spark the offense and aid the defense. It won't cure the offense or defense, but a QB running a less predictable offense with a solid run game would likely turn this into the 7-5, 8-4 type of team we'd like to be considering our predicament.

Now, I'm not saying we'd hit those records even if these things happen, considering one of those wins likely should have come from MSU, but it would at least let us compete on that level for the remainder of the season.

Whether that happens at any point, I don't know. But I do think that (confidence in a single QB and letting him operate a more varied playbook) gets us the most mileage in the short term. Of course, Gus claims he's going to play 3 QBs so who the frick knows.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:54 am to
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Could be, but I sort of expect that we'll either win or lose in a close, mediocre fashion that doesn't show any sign of significant decline or improvement, and we'll be saying the same shite about the Arky game.


You may be right about the Kentucky game, but your game against Arkansas won't be close. Bert is gonna run the score up because it will likely be his only chance to do that all season.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:54 am to
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How did the entire country completely whiff on them? Many thought that they were the most legitimate SEC contender for the Playoffs. They are downright horrible and should have lost to Jacksonville State.



Having a "sure-thing" QB running a high scoring offense will get you a lot of hype.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:55 am to
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He really did....That's the thing...he really talked up this team, Johnson, Boom etc. and then has woefully under-delivered.



He did in private, he definitely didn't in public.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:55 am to
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You may be right about the Kentucky game, but your game against Arkansas won't be close. Bert is gonna run the score up because it will likely be his only chance to do that all season.



Ok
Posted by AWG 12
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:57 am to
OFFSEASON CHAMPIONS
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 8:59 am to
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He did in private, he definitely didn't in public.


I have heard statemenst to the contrary. Sure he wasn't out raving about his team but he lavished a lot of pre-season praise on Johnson specifically...and Gus' forte is offense
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