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re: if 16 are teams are inevitable
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:22 pm to Indfanfromcol
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:22 pm to Indfanfromcol
I also think some effort should be made to separate UK and Vandy as they're traditionally 2 of the bottom programs....Pods should be balanced at the top and the bottom (so that 2 teams from the same pod can't basically be dismissed as easy wins most years).
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:25 pm to Indfanfromcol
Well I see your point but I'd assume that Va Tech will have very similar growing pains as to what Arkansas experienced when they joined.
I guess that would work but I still believe the best would be Va Tech switch but after what you said I wouldn't be opposed to your options ... well as long as there was a name change to that pod, it would bug the shite out of me.
I guess that would work but I still believe the best would be Va Tech switch but after what you said I wouldn't be opposed to your options ... well as long as there was a name change to that pod, it would bug the shite out of me.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:31 pm to noladan
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I also think some effort should be made to separate UK and Vandy as they're traditionally 2 of the bottom programs....Pods should be balanced at the top and the bottom (so that 2 teams from the same pod can't basically be dismissed as easy wins most years).
I agree, but you have to realize that the POD games are only 3 out of 9 games. So it doesn't mean the North will have an easy schedule.
Each pod has 2 teams that would be stronger and 2 that are weaker (traditionally speaking).
You play 2 teams from each pod every year, one strong and one weak. The strength of each team will vary from year to year so it will never be perfect.
ie. Fla in 2011 was not a tough game, but we were in 2012.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:36 pm to bigDgator
So for LSU fans Bama's SEC schedule could look like this:
Aub
Miss
MSU
LSU or A&M
Mizz or Ark
UT or Va Tech
Van or UK
Fla or UGa
SC or NC
Year one Bama would play the Cross division games on the left and year two the teams on the right. And back and forth every year.
If they wanted to play UT in the off years they can schedule them for a non-conference game and keep it the TSIO if they choose.
Aub
Miss
MSU
LSU or A&M
Mizz or Ark
UT or Va Tech
Van or UK
Fla or UGa
SC or NC
Year one Bama would play the Cross division games on the left and year two the teams on the right. And back and forth every year.
If they wanted to play UT in the off years they can schedule them for a non-conference game and keep it the TSIO if they choose.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:45 pm to Hogules68
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SECNORTH
Kentucky
Tennessee
Arkansas
Missouri
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:46 pm to AgroAmerican
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quote:SECNORTH Kentucky Tennessee Arkansas Missouri
The Hillbilly Meth Division. I love it.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:47 pm to bigDgator
Post all the nonsense you want to, but you ain't seperating TN, KY and Vandy. Add VT and you have the SEC North division. I think it will become a very competitive division, if not, then at least my team Vandy will have an easier path toward success.
Put Bama, LSU, Florida and Georgia in the same division so the rest of us can enjoy the beatdown.
Put Bama, LSU, Florida and Georgia in the same division so the rest of us can enjoy the beatdown.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:47 pm to bigDgator
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So for LSU fans Bama's SEC schedule could look like this:
I don't care who you are that's funny right there.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:51 pm to McRebel42
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The only problem is I don't know how to work out permanent cross divisional rivalry game as we need both Auburn/UGA and UGA/UF.
In essence that's the problem the permanent cross games ...
Throw in the fact that Mizzou and Arky will probably demand to play every year to try and foster a true conference rivalry that neither team currently have, as will LSU & aTm. And if UNC comes, then you can add UNC & USCe to that mix as well. Throw in the desire that I'm sure Arky (Mizzou also probably) will want to play aTm yearly for recruiting reasons, and aTm & VT (if VT comes) will want to play for the cadet aspect that can be fostered into a rivalry.
The meetings on how to divide up a 16 team SEC will probably be be a blood bath, with everyone having different agendas. For that reason, I think in the end they will go for the easiest path since there will be so much bickering. It will either be divided up into 2 divisions (which means the western teams won't play all of the eastern teams but every 6 years or so at best). Or it will be divided up into pods based on geography, and they will try and even out the rivalry concerns with permanent cross pod games (which will also allow every team to play all of the other teams at least every 3 years). I think that competitive balance will be the last in line of the considerations when it gets down to it (especially since with annual rematching of divisions with the different pod, even if one team has an easier schedule one year, the next year won't be the same, and the fact that they can compensate for lack of competitive balance by the permanent cross pod rivals they assign each team).
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:52 pm to bigDgator
looking at the pods that have been proposed so far....as a LSU guy, losing Ole Miss and Mississippi State are a big deal...
Would prefer a Southwest or Gulf pod with:
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
this pod keeps traditional rivals together...
Would prefer a Southwest or Gulf pod with:
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
this pod keeps traditional rivals together...
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:56 pm to vl100butch
Maybe we should have 0 divisions, have a 4 team playoff for the SEC championship, and have 2-3 permanent opponents.
All games decided bingo style.
Make a whole night of it on tv, make big $$$
All games decided bingo style.
Make a whole night of it on tv, make big $$$
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:59 pm to vl100butch
LSU
MSU
Ole Miss
aTm
Bama
AU
Vandy
UT
Arky
Mizzou
Uk
VaTech
Georgia
UF
SC
NC
MSU
Ole Miss
aTm
Bama
AU
Vandy
UT
Arky
Mizzou
Uk
VaTech
Georgia
UF
SC
NC
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:00 pm to bigDgator
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SEC WEST A&M Mizzou Ark LSU
Great. Why not just put us in the Big XII?
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:01 pm to Indfanfromcol
I thought of something like that and it would be really cool IMO
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:05 pm to Stingray
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I know I will get flamed for having LSU so high and Tenn so low,
Ole Miss over Va. Tech is a curious choice, too. I'm also skeptical about Alabama at #1, if you're thinking long term. After Saban retires, I wouldn't be surprised to see them go into another 20-30 year up-and-down period like they did after Bear Bryant died. Florida is likely to be more consistent than Alabama over that time frame.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:20 pm to McRebel42
UK
VT
UNC
UT
SC
UGA
UF
VU
Bama
Auburn
LSU
State
aTm
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Mizzou
Keeps things geographically tidy. I agree it's a tad unbalanced at the current time. The balance of power is always changing.
VT
UNC
UT
SC
UGA
UF
VU
Bama
Auburn
LSU
State
aTm
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Mizzou
Keeps things geographically tidy. I agree it's a tad unbalanced at the current time. The balance of power is always changing.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:26 pm to Duke
Balance of power is always changing to some extent but you can't confine the top 4 programs to 2 pods....The SEC would never do that. You may see a pod with both UGA and UF(if those schools really push for it), but I can almost guarantee LSU and Alabama will be split.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:28 pm to vl100butch
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as a LSU guy, losing Ole Miss and Mississippi State are a big deal...
Since when has LSU/MSU been a rivalry? Would playing MSU every 3 years instead of yearly really be that big of a deal for LSU fans? Would the same be said for MSU fans? I honestly never knew that the LSU/MSU yearly game was a big deal.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:35 pm to Bamatab
Yeah, if we as LSU fans aren't willing to give up MSU then there's no hope for any sort of realignment ever working. LSU-Miss St is at best a second rate rivalry (and really not even that high).
Every school has several of these games.
Every school has several of these games.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 1:35 pm to Bamatab
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Since when has LSU/MSU been a rivalry? Would playing MSU every 3 years instead of yearly really be that big of a deal for LSU fans? Would the same be said for MSU fans? I honestly never knew that the LSU/MSU yearly game was a big deal.
It's not, but if MSU and LSU decide we want to play each other, how is that different than AU/UA and UA/Tenn?
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