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re: I was glad to see Rhodes Scholar McElroy backpeddle on his ONLY conference champs in playo

Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:11 pm to
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Yeah man it's so much better to rely on personal bias and arbitrary BS like the eye test


Weird. I saw the UGA symbol next to your name but I knew that had to be a lie because your post screams "LSU"
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:14 pm to
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The biggest thing is getting rid of divisions.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24503 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Yeah man it's so much better to rely on personal bias and arbitrary BS like the eye test


Probably because Bama would beat Washington State 9 out of 10 times regardless of what happens Championship week
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:18 pm to
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I guess the biggest issue there is figuring out how we are going to deal with the inevitable log jam for 1st and/or 2nd place. Less games means less head to heads and more 6-2 teams with no head to head. I guess you could go to some sort of "record vs the Top 6" or "computer formula rank" or something along those lines.



H2H solves most 2 way log jams.
Remember, 2 teams get in.

This year, you have one 8-0 playing against the only 7-1. No issue.

Last year, Auburn is in (h2h) and we are finding a way to choose between UGA and Bama. Quality wins would be 1 way. Higher ranking would be another. Point differential in common opponents could be another.

It shouldn't be that hard.

The bigger challenge is the schedule rotation without divisions.
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:19 pm to
this is not a difficult situation to fix. If all the power 5 conferences expand to 16 teams with 4 divisions of 4 teams. At the end of the year you have 20 teams who are leading their division. They have a conference semifinal game and then a conference title game and the playoff.

College football would have 5 conference winners and 3 at large teams (none of those who lost in conference title games) and your playoff is done. May the best team win.

you only added 3 games to the final 2 teams and those playoff games can be bowl games through out December and first part of January.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19451 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:44 pm to
JESUS MARY AND JOSEPH. REAL FOOTBALL TALK ON THE RANT. Hopefully Cajunbama doesn't show up to ruin it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:40 pm to
That’s a lot of games
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:40 pm to
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They could have just made a rule that only 1 team per conference can play for the Natty.



Problem is...we have seen the two best teams in the country come from the same conference....twice. I want the best teams to play.
It cost LSU one year, and it cost Georgia one year. But the two best teams in the country played for the National Championship. That should be the goal. Not make it easier for somebody's favorite team or conference win.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6834 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:45 pm to
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8 team play off. 5 conference champs. 3 At large. Auto Bid for top 10 G5 team.



The 3 at large should be decided by the BCS computer rankings and not a group of people with bias mindsets.
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:47 pm to
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That’s a lot of games


gives you a 20 team playoff.....may the best team win.

The final 2 teams only play 3 extra games, the semi-final divisional game and the round of 8 playoff game. they would have already been playing the conference championship game, the round of 4 playoff game, the title game.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30878 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:47 pm to
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8 team play off.
5 conference champs.
3 At large. Auto Bid for top 10 G5 team.


This only works if you eliminate divisions. So long as you still football abortions like the B1G West, ACC Costal, and PAC-12 South, the "auto conference champ" doesn't hold water.

Why should a 2-loss UGA or 1-loss Ohio State, for example, not get in when a 4-loss Northwestern gets their ticket punched because Michigan's starting QB ends up getting injured and they win a close game in the Big 10 CG?

You do away with divisions, and this problem disappears.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21874 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:51 pm to
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h man it's so much better to rely on personal bias and arbitrary BS like the eye test


So why doesn't that work for football when it is how basketball teams are selected?
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12747 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:53 pm to
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I do think you can lengthen the schedule out by a week and add an extra bye (plus there is no SECCG in this scenario). Play 10 conference games and 3 OOC games
A few things aren't matching up here.

13 games plus an extra bye means you need 15 weeks to the season. In a current SEC season with 12 games and the SECCG you are doing it all in 14 weeks most of the time (2019 will be an anomaly).

If you aren't playing a true round robin, what happens if you have two teams with the same record who haven't faced each other? How do you determine the SEC Champ? Rankings? Record against common opponents?

The initial scenario said that there would be a CG if needed. You have to fit that into the schedule on the chance you need it, even if it is only in certain years. When do you play it? If you play it, then you are back to 14 games before bowl season.

14 games plus two byes would push the season into mid or late December. That's not much time to prepare for the playoffs.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:59 pm to
Best 8 teams Period with conference champs being a plus but not the main deal.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:10 pm to
I have a feeling all of this will lead to us rwadopting the BCS format.
Posted by moester75
Anne Arundel County, MD
Member since Oct 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:31 pm to
We all know that no format will stop the bitching that will definitely occur. If we go to six team the #7 and #8 will complain. If we go to eight teams #9 and # 10 will complain. Another poster said that no conference championship game loser should be allowed in any playoff spots with an 8 team playoff. I bet you’d feel differently if your team finished undefeated except for losing the conference championship game and five three or four loss teams make the playoffs. There is no perfect format.
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:17 pm to
Lol the “eye test”. Aka the ratings test.
Posted by TouchdownToCauseHell
Member since Apr 2018
568 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:28 pm to
Nobody would wanna watch teams like LSU and Washington State get blown out though. That's why they keep it at 4. The playoffs are a privilege for the elite teams not a charity
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