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re: I really hate it when an analyst says "College football needs (historically good team) to

Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:43 am to
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:43 am to
I agree. Football was best during the Ray Goff era at Georgia
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:48 am to
That phrase is given for different teams due to different reasons.

For Nebraska it is literally like giving them a sympathy screw.

For someone like Texas it is just to feed their oversized egos.

For teams like Tennessee and Auburn it's to make them feel like they are more important in the grand scheme of things than they really are.

For a team like Miami it is just a shoutout to some older guy by telling him he was quite the pimped out lady's man back in his day.
Posted by TexasTiger_08
Texas
Member since Dec 2021
1484 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:54 am to
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This is why no one likes UGA fans


I prefer UGA fans over Texas, Florida, or Tennessee every day of the week.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:59 am to
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be good. Just heard Doering say it about Tennessee and Auburn. Why? We can't all be good. If all of the historically good/great teams are good/great, then doesn't that mean we need all the teams who are historically bad or average to continue to be bad or average?

Makes no sense.


When BAMA took over the SEC and college football a decade and a half ago it was Florida and LSU who were riding high and won recent NCs. Mark Richt had Georgia riding high and the barn caught lightning in a bottle with Cam Newton. Who did I just mention that hasn't been a "historically" good SEC team in the last 15 years?

Tennessee was an embarrassment to themselves and to the SEC. They have been the only outlier through the entire run. The SEC just enjoyed the greatest decade of its existence nationally with NCs and is the only Power 5 conference that has enjoyed so many teams winning it all. If you count NCs, the SEC's "historical" teams have been doing just fine.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62014 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:44 pm to
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Y’all maybe stop to ever think that Bamas compete domination of the entire conference for 15 years might have been a little more difficult if their permanent rival had a pulse?


Believe it or not, Tennessee is not the do all end all of college football. It would have been just as effective if any other team had knocked Alabama off. Yes, even if it was Missouri, Arkansas, Vanderbilt or anybody else.

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CFB needs balance. UGA plays auburn and UT every year, probably be better for everyone else if they were solid solid challenges instead of cakewalks.

And everybody screams they are tired of the same ole teams going to the playoffs every year, but you are arguing for the same ole teams to do just that.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:46 pm to
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This is why no one likes UGA fans


Among a million other reasons...

No offense to my buddy above me
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 12:47 pm
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13469 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:48 pm to
You had very little to show for it at Auburn, but okay.
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I agree. Football was best during the Ray Goff era at Georgia
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62014 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:48 pm to
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Yes but most of those other teams capable of stepping up don’t play Bama/UGA every year,


They either do or could if they won their division, could they not?

He wasn't taking a shot at Tennessee per se, but the idea that college football does not necessarily "need" for old time Blue Blood schools to be great. People were pumped and excited last year for TCU to make the playoffs. Had they beaten Georgia people would have gone ballistic. It does not hurt to have a variety of teams do well.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62014 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:49 pm to
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No offense to my buddy above me


None taken. I realize we can be insufferable. We all have them.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62014 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:52 pm to
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I agree. Football was best during the Ray Goff era at Georgia


Auburn has had some great teams. Georgia has had some great teams. LSU has had some great teams. There is nothing wrong for a team/school to have some down years and new schools have some good years. Obviously we all like it more when our favorite team is having those special years.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
35185 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:52 pm to
I’d rather a team come out of nowhere than a blue blood that hasn’t been relevant nationally in a while make a comeback.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9764 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:58 pm to
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es, even if it was Missouri, Arkansas, Vanderbilt or anybody else.



Ok, well my whole argument is that they didn’t. Until proven wrong, none of them are capable of doing so based on their relative resources. The fact remains that no non-big 6 team is has ever served as a long term foil to a big 6. Tennessee, Auburn, and LSU are the big six teams that Bama plays every year. Take away UT and Auburn (half the time), and more often than not, Bama walks into the SECC. Might lose to a non-big team every once in a while, but nothing consistently.


Hey look, Auburn and UF and UT were down while UGA started its greatest run in history. South Carolina, Mizzou, Kentucky, vandy haven't been able to step up. Fancy that.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 1:07 pm
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:07 pm to
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Take away UT and Auburn (half the time), and more often than not, Bama walks into the SECC.


How many times has an east team beat a west team in the SECCG in the last 16 years? That would be a much better way of deciding who has the cakewalk einstein.

And the barn has as many wins against BAMA as anyone in the SEC.

Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9764 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:07 pm to
Jesus Christ you are stupid
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
26677 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:10 pm to
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College football does not need you, and hasnt had you in 25 years. Your program is irrelevant. Take that from someone who knows what its like to watch an irrelevant program.





Gotdamn... Great statement and nothing but the truth...
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7270 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:14 pm to
Deep history is an easy sell. So is the Cinderella, but that lady does not age well. Everyone was a Boise St. fan for about half a minute. No one gives a shite about them anymore. Parity is making this ever more apparent with much more frequent upsets of P5 teams.

There is also the Walmart factor. Ragin' Cajuns fans like to say, "If you see someone wearing a UL shirt, they probably went there. If you see someone wearing an LSU shirt, they probably went to Walmart." Big, old brands attract non-alumni. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the butts in the seats at SEC games are not alums.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:17 pm to
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Jesus Christ you are stupid



And you think like your team has played for the last decade and a half. Too any miles in the wilderness.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:19 pm to
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Everyone was a Boise St. fan for about half a minute

frick Boise State and anyone who came from there
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
8863 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:21 pm to
Spock would say the OP makes logical sense.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
13372 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:44 pm to
It’s a different game now. There are only a handful of teams that even have a realistic chance.

NIL has only exacerbated things. It’s not nearly as competitive as it was in the 80s 90s and 2000s.

I’m just here to watch it burn. The fact that we have to go to Congress to keep from destroying the game is indicative of how fricked up it is.
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