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re: I never have understood the snap panic hire of Deboer

Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:22 am to
I can call it a bad panic hire without having to tell you exactly who and when.

Sorry I wont sit in your little false dilemma box, thay may work with your low IQ peers.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:23 am to
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Who, specifically, could they have hired who would have been better?

Again. We don’t need to identify better options to acknowledge that this was a bad one.

Nobody here is paid to make these searches. But they made a rash decision, like you said because they were afraid. And they are too arrogant to hire an “unknown” so they went with a bad hire.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:23 am to
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can call it a bad panic hire without having to tell you exactly who and when.

He even admitted it was lol

But he planted his flag and won’t turn back now lol
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 9:25 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464971 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:24 am to
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This is the beauty of their argument the prefect coach is “some body else”

Exactly

It's so dishonest
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:24 am to
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I'm more laughing at how scared they are to make an actual point. It's fascinating behavior, to be so scared on a message board.


Now we are "scared"

The self acclaimed intellectual titan SFP with a real crusher.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:25 am to
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I can call it a bad panic hire without having to tell you exactly who and when.

I mean you can, because this is America, but it invalidates your argument entirely and shows you're too scared to defend it.

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Sorry I wont sit in your little false dilemma box, thay may work with your low IQ peers.

Defending your argument is not a false dilemma. This can only be a panic or bad hire if there were better options at the time, in real time.

Being unable to defend your point shows how poor it is, and no amount of emotional meltdowns or ad homs will change that. The only thing that will defend your point is actually defending your point
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:26 am to
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Again. We don’t need to identify better options to acknowledge that this was a bad one.


This only works if there's an option where they don't hire a coach. Was that an option?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:26 am to
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Now we are "scared"

To go four pages without making any defense of your argument? How is that not being scared?

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:27 am to
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This only works if there's an option where they don't hire a coach. Was that an option?

They could have done a better search. But like you said, they were afraid, and made a …… panic hire lol
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:29 am to
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I can call it a bad panic hire without having to tell you exactly who and when. Sorry I wont sit in your little false dilemma box, thay may work with your low IQ peers.




Just name one
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17099 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:40 am to
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They could have probably gotten just about anyone in the world they wanted.


Who was a realistic option for Bama that would have been better than Deboer.

Lanning turned them down. There's absolutely zero chance in hell of plucking Kirby away from UGA. Sarkisian? No chance. Ryan Day? Nobody wanted him at the time, constantly underachieving at Ohio State. Dabo stock has taken a nosedive in the NIL era. Lane Kiffin? Id argue that Deboer accomplished more at Washington than Lane has at Ole Miss.

Outside of that, who are you thinking? Do you think you can convince Harbough to not go to the NFL?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107975 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:41 am to
Hiring the coach that just made the national title game “was a bad panic hire”

Strannix needs a booster for his brain
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:42 am to
It seemed like the best hire possible at the time. sometimes it just doesn’t work out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464971 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:45 am to
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They could have done a better search.


I've done the search ITT.

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What better options were there?

DeBoer was the hottest name on the market that off-season

Lanning wasn't an option

Dabo wasn't an option

Kirby wasn't an option

I doubt Sark was leaving UT and their money

I doubt Ryan Day was leaving (and I doubt he'd be better than KDB in the SEC)


Apparently Sark declined to interview, so that can be revised.

I'll go down the AP top 25 at the end of last year to add more

Freeman? No way he leaves ND, but would he even be an upgrade?

Franklin? get the frick out

Kenny Dillingham? Similar to DeBoer with fewer scalps and less history at HC

Spencer Danielson? Less of a resume than Dillingham and similar backgrounds/culture to both he and DeBoer

Heupel? get the frick out

Cignetti? 64 with a worse resume than DeBoer

Kiffen, we covered

Rhett Lashlee? Probably won't have cultural issues and has SEC history, but with 1 year as a HC?

Kalani Sitake? No

Matt Campbell? Would say no

Bret Bielema? No

Cristobal? No

Shane Beamer? I'll listen to your arguments

Fran Brown? No

Jeff Monken? No

Drinkwitz? I'll listen to arguments, but he's another DeBoer-lite type with fewer skins on the wall, with 1 more year as a HC

Barry Odom? No

Silverfield? Again, whatever good you say about him, DeBoer has that history + a ttle appearance at a major school.

Deion Sanders? I'll listen to your arguments.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:48 am to
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Who was a realistic option for Bama that would have been better than Deboer.

Lanning turned them down. There's absolutely zero chance in hell of plucking Kirby away from UGA. Sarkisian? No chance. Ryan Day? Nobody wanted him at the time, constantly underachieving at Ohio State. Dabo stock has taken a nosedive in the NIL era. Lane Kiffin? Id argue that Deboer accomplished more at Washington than Lane has at Ole Miss.

Outside of that, who are you thinking? Do you think you can convince Harbough to not go to the NFL?


They want to pretend there was this magical option, and it's clear that was the better option, but, for some reason, they can't talk about it.

With decision analysis, you have to take the options given to you in real time. When judging the decision, you do it based on this real time scenairo.

So you look at A, B, and C, and analyze it from the data at the time (not with hindsight bias).

What they're doing is creating a magic box without a label they don't have to define as this better option, to criticize the decision.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60691 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:48 am to
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I can call it a bad panic hire without having to tell you exactly who and when.


So you take the easiest laziness position possible and call others low IQ
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119510 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:49 am to
Two of the board retards really outdid themselves with this one
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:50 am to
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I've done the search ITT.

Didn’t know you were an athletic director lol
Posted by theballguy
Between Colorado & DC
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:51 am to
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Of course it’s strannix and tackysweater tarding up the thread



They're not the most intelligent but they are entertaining. That counts for something.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:51 am to
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So you take the easiest laziness position possible and call others low IQ


Every decision is a bad one when compared to an undefined, mythical, better option
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