SlowFlowPro
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| Registered on: | 1/18/2004 |
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re: Is this how atheists think Christianity started?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 11:10 am to lepdagod
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I’m sure it creeped into their minds
Are they retarded?
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re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 11:09 am to ChineseBandit58
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Who are these "they" you are referencing that have been there for 1000s of years?
Only the Persians fit that description - a half century ago, the islamists came in an overthrew their leadership
Holy fricking shite :lol:
Persians in Iran have been Islamic for almost 1000 years.
re: Is this how atheists think Christianity started?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 11:04 am to lepdagod
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Would you though?
Yes
That was only one miracle, too.
Feeding thousands with a couple loaves of bread and a couple fish would probably have sold it to me even stronger.
re: What is the source of our rights?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:59 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life
Unless you're a slave
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Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Unless you're a slave, woman, if you don't own property, etc.
re: What is the source of our rights?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:58 am to geoag58
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The founders were not in agreement on the issue of slavery, but slavery was legal in all of the colonies. If slavery had not existed do you think the rights enumerated would have been different?
Slavery is only one example, and I used it specifically for his example ("the right to life").
Women were also denied rights
Men who didn't own property were denied rights
If these rights are from a god, you'd expect more universality.
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Communists approach their system from the aspect that the state is all powerful and there is no God. The state decides the rights of the individual.
But if rights are from a god, this is irrelevant, as you said:
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It doesn't matter that one person temporarily denies another person the free exercise of their rights, the person still retains their rights, since rights are God given.
Communist states can't take anything away and these people still retain their rights, since they are God given.
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God is perfect and immutable and man, like the slave owning founder writing about inalienable rights is not.
If we just say "god crates rights", but man cannot be trusted to describe rights, we can skip the first question and get to these 2
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Who/what defines what a right is?
What is the comprehensive list of rights?
The list of god-given rights may end up being incredibly short, for all we konw.
re: Is this how atheists think Christianity started?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:54 am to lepdagod
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can you right now say you believe in some so much you would die or risk prison for it???
If I saw a god on Earth raise a man from the dead? Uh, yeah.
Silly question.
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:51 am to TrueTiger
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Learn to code.
Code the electronics on suicide vests and IEDs, perhaps.
re: What is the source of our rights?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:50 am to Wednesday
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When you post the comprehensive list of mathematical formulas used to derive everything
So we don't even have a concept of what all rights are or will be? Noted.
That certainly complicates things.
You can't define them, list them, and argue we are on a journey to figure them out without any end in sight.
That sounds like a rational, functional system to me :lol:
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:45 am to TrueTiger
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Only certain leaders do.
And the millions who fanatically support the regime do, what, exactly?
re: What is the source of our rights?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:33 am to geoag58
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An individuals rights end where another person's begins. It doesn't matter that one person temporarily denies another person the free exercise of their rights, the person still retains their rights, since rights are God given.
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There are better questions
What is a right?
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This is why communist states promote atheism. If the state is the ultimate power then they gove rights and can also take them away.
But in your scenario, the state didn't take anything away :confused:
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:31 am to dickkellog
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no son i've got you pegged,
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are you still gay pretending to live in portland?
Clearly you don't
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i'd been married for 16 years, my son was making his first communion and my daughter was two, i was a stock broker for AG edwards and sons making 900k a year. we lived in a 1.1mm dollar house 4 blocks from the little rock country club.
now you do you and i'll hang up and listen.
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:29 am to Vacherie Saint
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At least you aren’t making the insane argument that the allied forces CAN’T defeat the regime like some people.
With a full invasion we could be lucky to create another Iraq situation (total sectarian chaos for 10+ years), but it would likely be an Afghanistan (where the Taliban held out and were not replaced)
So in that Iraq scenario, after a full scale invasion we could theoretically topple the regime, but in that scenario it's not clear if that goal was wise.
re: Draft Prospects Thread
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:27 am to jamal
Downs not working out scares me. Being super smart in college means he'll likely be super smart in the NFL, but to really be valuable he needs to be that prototypical 3rd safety that is both LB, S, and NB. The guys currently doing it are a LOT bigger than him, and I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if he showed he was an elite athlete (to go with the football IQ and mental work he clearly engage in), but he refused to work out which is a red flag.
Just not worth the risk at 8 for a safety who doesn't fit that mold.
Bailey
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Just not worth the risk at 8 for a safety who doesn't fit that mold.
Bailey
Lemon
Delane
Love
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:19 am to RCDfan1950
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The Iranian people who have long been oppressed and murdered in the streets have now begun assassinating their oppressors in the streets
What? I hope you don't mean the video posted on here that was debunked.
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We are in it for keeps now. Guaranteed dogfight, win or lose. I expect that we will all 'lose'. And it will be Jesus that pulls us out of our own death spiral, albeit Muhammad's folk bring the "12 Imam" scenarios which set the stage for the Return. As prophesied.
Oh frick
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:18 am to Vacherie Saint
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They have one of the largest nuclear programs in the world and Iran’s ruling regime is held together with cardboard-literally.
This is the NPC ignorance that will likely create the self fulfilling prophecy of the sunk cost fallacy in Iran.
re: What is the source of our rights?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:17 am to the808bass
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Someone murdered someone last night in St. Louis. I guess we don’t have a right to life.
Many founders who wrote about the right to life owned slaves.
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There are better questions
What is a right?
Who/what defines what a right is?
What is the comprehensive list of rights?
What erodes those concepts we reference as "rights"?
You're being dismissive of a discussion of what a right is, while giving an example that attacks the concept of rights.
John Locke can write about "life, liberty, and property" all he wants but it loses meaning when he profits off slavery and doesn't believe in extending equal rights to women. Cleary he did not believe in a universal concept of rights, even from the basic state-individual relationship.
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:11 am to Vacherie Saint
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Huh?
It was a historical reference. I'm not shocked a person pushing points ignorant to history wouldn't get it.
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:09 am to Vacherie Saint
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lol. Israel has nukes and a lust for killing Muslims.
They don't have enough to "level" Iran.
Y'all have a clear misunderstanding of the logistics of war with Iran, from basic geography to the cultural issues at play.
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:08 am to Vacherie Saint
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Debatable, but what good is an 11 schlong that never gets wet?
Just be sure to eat some Freedom Fries and listen to Toby Keith when you're done using it.
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:08 am to RohanGonzales
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When you are challenged effectively, you go towards shrill gibberish in a heartbeat.
Challenged? I was responding to someone who agrees with me. It wasn't even my point. I was just adding to his point.
Can you read?
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Here is another fact - the sainted protestors of the Vietnam War caused about 90% of our casualties there.
You're proving his point and you don't even realize it :lol:
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Here is another fact - we prosecuted WWII to the end because of the Jews. That is the most recent war where we did. Nobody gave a shite about gypsies and the rest.
If you whiners care so much about Israel's influence, what the frick are you doing about it?. Get out there in public and say what you do here.
Who the frick was talking about Israel's influence? :confused:
re: Iran will never surrender
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 3/29/26 at 10:06 am to Vacherie Saint
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Maybe, but the worst thing we could do it bail now
This is exactly what we told y'all would happen.
You're already preemptively excusing escalation and "boots on the ground".
If this does occur, would you agree the decision to start this war was a bad one?
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Unless you are willing to let Israel level the place.
They don't have the fire power to do this.
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