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re: I like LSU's approach to this game better

Posted on 10/29/11 at 11:14 am to
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 11:14 am to
A business approach is exactly how a team plays loose. It's okay to get fired up and have an extra sense of urgency, but if you're playing on emmotion that's how you get tight and nervous. Plus, emmotion is gone after about 5 minutes. Saban has a methodical, machine-like mental mindset built into his players, which causes them to practice and prepare at a higher level and then perform at a higher level. I'll take it any day of the week over getting up for one game. Ask Penn State, Arky and Florida how well it works to get all worked up emmotionally for Bama.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 11:18 am to
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I really, really, really hope Nov 5 leads to a three way tie in the west by the end of the season.


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Posted by Rex Manning
San Francisco 49ers Fan
Member since Jul 2011
1966 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 11:54 am to
I don't think one approach is better than another. They have both worked well for each coach.
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 11:56 am to
I think you are wrong, but both coaches are right.

Players are smart and if you start changing what you do, they'll start freaking out.

If Miles' were to start acting all serious it would freak the players and the fanbase out. If Saban started telling jokes that were funny and saying incoherrent sentences the Earth would turn inside out.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 11:58 am to
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I don't think one approach is better than another. They have both worked well for each coach.


I agree with this. Individual players each respond to a different type of coaching. Saban's players respond very well to his type of coaching, whereas Miles' players respond to his type of coaching, IMHO.
Posted by crownNbull
Gretna
Member since Jun 2010
3202 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 12:02 pm to
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Saban's "business" approach has worked so far in every big game Bama has played in since he got there, with the exception of Auburn last season, ULM, and Utah.


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Posted by lsualum96
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Nov 2005
3286 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 12:21 pm to
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Saban's "business" approach has worked so far in every big game Bama has played in since he got there

win or lose- Bama has shown up ready to play in every one of these big matchups under Saban


Uhm.........................Utah would like to have a word with you.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13112 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 12:22 pm to
Both approaches work for their teams.All depends on which style you personally like better.Some like Saban's business like approach and some like Miles' players' coach,loose mentality.

Having experienced Saban at LSU and having watched all the big games for Bama since he's been there,his style works more than not but there have been a few times where his team played nervous or tight at the beginning of games.The Texas game is the best example.He and the team were out of sorts at the beginning of that game.Once McCoy got hurt and the game settled in and Ingram began to wear on Texas they took control.Before that Bama was not good in that game.Lots of mental mistakes by the team and Saban.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21307 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 12:48 pm to
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Saban's "business" approach has worked so far in every big game Bama has played in since he got there

win or lose- Bama has shown up ready to play in every one of these big matchups under Saban

Saban had the same approach vs Florida in '08 & '09, vs Texas in the NC game... vs VT and Clemson in the Atlanta Kickoff games... vs UGA in the blackout game... etc, etc, etc


So, apparently the game against LSU last year was not a big game, even though if Bama had won, they would have been positioned to still win the SEC and play for the national championship after starting the season #1.

Or, the Auburn game last year wasn't a big game, I guess when Bama choked away a 24 point lead.


You keep solidifying yourself as the worst poster on the SEC Rant.
Posted by TheRammerJammer
ORLANDO, FL
Member since Sep 2011
1201 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 12:50 pm to
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And that scares me. I think the "business" approach is good when playing mississippi schools and arkansas teams but for a game like this i think its super important for the players to be excited, like a college student, and enjoy themselves. Miles seems to have his team looser....But that is just an opinion from someone who usually has bad ones..."business" like approach can lead to nervous offense.....but im not second guessing saban just wanted to see what you all thought


This has got to be the gayest post of the year. If you don't think BAMA will be up fr this game then you are a fricking moron.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21307 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 12:51 pm to
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Saban has a methodical, machine-like mental mindset built into his players, which causes them to practice and prepare at a higher level and then perform at a higher level.




This is part of the Saban myth that he likes to propogate among the media. He is a great coach, but his businesslike approach did not help him against South Carolina, LSU, or Auburn last year or against Utah in the Sugar Bowl.

He is a good coach with a team that is usually far more talented than the team across the field. That is how he wins. All of the rest is just smoke and mirrors to enhance his persona and guys like you eat it up.
Posted by TxHillsTiger
Austin
Member since Feb 2009
839 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 12:59 pm to
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both approaches are perfect for the situation.
It's easy to "have the right approach" when your team has the talent to kick arse without really trying.

Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21101 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:02 pm to
I just hope thy aren't so loose that that they start throwing helmets and kicking bamaplayers
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143646 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

aban's "business" approach has worked so far in every big game Bama has played in since he got there



I guess BCS bowl games aren't big games.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143646 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:05 pm to
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A business approach is exactly how a team plays loose. It's okay to get fired up and have an extra sense of urgency, but if you're playing on emmotion that's how you get tight and nervous. Plus, emmotion is gone after about 5 minutes. Saban has a methodical, machine-like mental mindset built into his players, which causes them to practice and prepare at a higher level and then perform at a higher level. I'll take it any day of the week over getting up for one game. Ask Penn State, Arky and Florida how well it works to get all worked up emmotionally for Bama.



Your post cannot be taken seriously when you misspell the same word three times.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:07 pm to
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Saban's "business" approach has worked so far in every big game Bama has played in since he got there


a certain sugar bowl stands out in my mind.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:10 pm to
neither approach is right or wrong. whereas i like miles approach better, i damn sure like sabans approach too. you don't even get to play in big games if you don't start preparing in the spring, have excellence in summer workouts and sweat blood in the fall. both coaches engineer that; it's just that miles APPEARS happy go lucky so folks branded him as a dufus when he had some talent failures. this game is a toss up and, imo, NOT indicative of either coaches style. the winner of this game, in all likelyhood will be the team that gets a key break; goes for it on 4th and makes it; a player (star or journeyman) steps up and makes a play at a critical moment and of course, the turnover thing. i think these teams are even and the loser is probably just as good of a team. BUT, somebody has to lose. here's to a great matchup and the hope that no one get's injured.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:12 pm to
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Saban's "business" approach has worked so far in every big game Bama has played in since he got there


saban lays his share of eggs in big games. you must have forgotten about utah in the sugar bowl. BUT, in general, i agree with you.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86597 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:16 pm to
Saban has groomed me to not doubt a single thing he does. I realize EVERY decision he makes won't be perfect but he's better than anyone else Alabama could have. Haven't you heard one of his pre-game speeches? He'll have em pumped. I remember feeling nervous about how Alabama would come out against auburn last year. They were on another planet. Decided to never worry about the teams attitude going into a game after that.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22480 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 1:18 pm to
Auburn took a more loose approach to last year's BCSNCG than Oregon, and it paid off.... however Texas was the looser team in 09 and got beat.

I don't think you can really have a 'rule of thumb' with things like this... as long as you're not deviating too far from your normal approach to things, then either way can/will win you ballgames and get your team prepared.
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