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re: I just saw the touchdown that got called back in the Bama/MSU game
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:51 am to RB10
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:51 am to RB10
I don't remember the year, but it was during a 2 year stretch where MSU was the only SEC team to lead Alabama in the 4th qtr. MSU was in the red zone late in the 4th qtr and the refs called 3 straight penalties on MSU. Two phantom false starts that replay clearly proved otherwise. When they showed the replays, the announcers said not a single player on offense ever flinched. It has been this way for years, I don't know why people are surprised. Alabama fans will say that calls/holds are missed in every game. It's the blatant phantom calls against MSU that have occurred in crucial times of the game or areas of the field that is the bigger issue.
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:07 pm to Centinel
Debunked by gumps typing on a message board from their mobile homes?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:10 pm to Funky Tide 8
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The fact that the MSU guy threw his hands up immediately, which is what most guilty parties do in that situation, probably did not help.
I keep hearing this argument, but maybe the refs should call penalties they actually see occur instead making assumptions based on how a player reacts?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:13 pm to KMcGee21MSU
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I don't remember the year, but it was during a 2 year stretch where MSU was the only SEC team to lead Alabama in the 4th qtr. MSU was in the red zone late in the 4th qtr and the refs called 3 straight penalties on MSU. Two phantom false starts that replay clearly proved otherwise. When they showed the replays, the announcers said not a single player on offense ever flinched.
Got any evidence? I don't believe you.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:14 pm to DingLeeBerry
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DingLeeBerry
Again, what is your response to the fact that State received 2 generous calls on touchdown scoring plays vs Auburn to basically win the football game?
Was that a hose job? Was the SEC in the bag for State or anti-Auburn?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:14 pm to PickupAutist
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I keep hearing this argument, but maybe the refs should call penalties they actually see occur instead making assumptions based on how a player reacts?
You might have a point if I had claimed that his reaction alone made it look like a block in the back. It was the reaction, plus the WR being right on the back of the DB, and then throwing his hands up right as the defender dove to the ground.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:16 pm to KMcGee21MSU
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I don't remember the year, but it was during a 2 year stretch where MSU was the only SEC team to lead Alabama in the 4th qtr.
Yea, please give me some more evidence, because there were not 2 straight years in the last 30 where Alabama led in the 4th for every game but State AND trailed State in the 4th.
Certainly not in the Saban era, as the only game vs State we trailed in the 4th in the Saban era were 2007 (we'd already lost 3 games) and 2017.
Before that, we certainly trailed pre-State game in 4th quarters going back to the early 1990s.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
frickin state lol
Can’t believe we had to cheat to beat them this year. Next year we hopefully can just beat them straight up.
Can’t believe we had to cheat to beat them this year. Next year we hopefully can just beat them straight up.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:26 pm to crimsonian
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What about the LSU game?
And Quinnen Williams never gets held.
Bama never gets called for holding. The difference in the LSU game was that the refs swallowed their whistles for both teams.
It only seems bad because you are a Bama fan and evenly called (or not called) officiating seems egregious to you.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:28 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Bama never gets called for holding. The difference in the LSU game was that the refs swallowed their whistles for both teams.
And our opponents almost literally never get called for holding. So I'm not sure what your point is.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:29 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
Clemson ran 99 offensive plays and not a single flag was thrown on them. In a National Championship. So take your 8 straight losses and gfy.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:31 pm to PickupAutist
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keep hearing this argument, but maybe the refs should call penalties they actually see occur instead making assumptions based on how a player reacts?
Exactly what most of us have said. The idea that it was done because he scored is what the argument is. It was a terrible call and he was out of position but I think he believed it occurred. I used to umpire baseball and I would always accept a second umpires opinion if he had a better angle. That’s what should have occurred after he threw the flag. You can always pick it up.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:41 pm to crimsonian
what about the game where Patrick Peterson had an interception. did you forget about that one too! 
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Sorry I struck a nerve. Barkevious Mingo, Klavon Chaisson and every other edge rusher we’ve had spends their career wearing Bama tackles as backpacks, with no flags.
Enjoy your 8 wind-aided victories
Enjoy your 8 wind-aided victories
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Again, what is your response to the fact that State received 2 generous calls on touchdown scoring plays vs Auburn to basically win the football game?
Gumps are backed into a corner and have resorted to using Auburn and Clemson to defend themselves. Normally I’d assume that could cause you to get your Gump card pulled, but understandably allowable under the circumstances.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:59 pm to DingLeeBerry
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Gumps are backed into a corner and have resorted to using Auburn and Clemson to defend themselves. Normally I’d assume that could cause you to get your Gump card pulled, but understandably allowable under the circumstances.
So is your answer that those calls were random and not due to nefarious behavior favoring State? Because they were, at best, two 50/50 calls, and both went to State on plays where the alternative was 7 pts for Auburn and 0 pts for state. It was a 14 pt swing and State got both calls, in a game that was ultimately decided in the final 3 minutes. That really isn't debatable.
It's a pretty straightforward question.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 2:02 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Sorry I struck a nerve. Barkevious Mingo, Klavon Chaisson and every other edge rusher we’ve had spends their career wearing Bama tackles as backpacks, with no flags.
It's just interesting how most of you change your narratives and rational when it's Alabama vs your team.
Opposing teams are called for holding against Alabama less than almost anyone else in America, and that is going on 5 years running. This depsite Alabama having arguably the best defensive front over that 5 year period in college football.
Can you imagine the conspiracy theories that would be sprouting up if those numbers existed for LSU? I know you can, because it's happened before. Just admit that there are clearly some things, through the conspiratorial glasses some like to wear, that could easily be used to push a "Bama gets held and nobody ever calls it" line. If LSU finished dead last or in the bottom 5 nationally for half a decade in opponents penalty yards the Tiger Rant would bring it up EVERY TIME REFEREEING CAME UP. EVERY SINGLE TIME. You know it, I know it.
Or you can just keep changing your threshold of evidence for when you want something to be true and when you don't. Your call.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 2:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
There were a few plays in that game that could’ve gone either way. Not sure which specific ones you were referring to, but the two primary ones I remember were reviewed in the replay booth and upheld. What was the replay determination on the two early fumbles Saturday? Oh, that’s right, they weren’t reviewed.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 2:11 pm to DingLeeBerry
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There were a few plays in that game that could’ve gone either way. Not sure which specific ones you were referring to, but the two primary ones I remember were reviewed in the replay booth and upheld.
Not sure which ones? The play where Fitzgerald "scored" and the Auburn fumble into the end zone. They literally decided the outcome of the game.
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reviewed in the replay booth and upheld
LOL oh, well then, they must have been ok then.
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What was the replay determination on the two early fumbles Saturday? Oh, that’s right, they weren’t reviewed.
The play is officially reviewed after a buzz down from the booth. So, the refs were mid reviewed and another play was run (probable) or they reviewed it and said it was fine. Either way, using your logic from the Auburn game, the guys up top looking at it and saying it is ok or not buzzing down means they were right. So nothing to see here.
Right? Because as you said, if the officials/replay says it's good, then it is good. Or, maybe those guys screw up sometimes (both for and against Mississippi State).
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 2:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Except for the fact Bama took their time running the next play and tv replay confirmed the fumble. Also interesting they weren’t replayed in the stadium, but in Starkville we replay it whether it’s to our favor or not. So by your logic, the calls were missed twice, on the field and in the booth, which makes it even worse.
And the Auburn fumble was in fact a fumble and called correctly. The Fitz TD was either way and replay didn’t confirm one way or the other, so the call on the field would’ve stood as called.
And the Auburn fumble was in fact a fumble and called correctly. The Fitz TD was either way and replay didn’t confirm one way or the other, so the call on the field would’ve stood as called.
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