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re: I believe we can safely assume that Yaw-Yaw may be fired after this season...
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:33 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:33 am to SidewalkTiger
Fisher was hired for several reasons at A&M
Increase the recruiting profile and talent on the team - has done that
Win consistently - we will see how he does this year now that team has been built
Win a championship - some luck involved there, but remaining consistently near the top of the SEC is a good recipe
Fisher has been a great fit at A&M, and has built the team for sustained success. Can't really ask for more at this point in time. He has anything he wants at A&M, and nowhere near the pressure at a school like LSU. I mean we are literally re-landscaping the area outside the stadium, and building him a permanent indoor practice field, as well as numerous other improvements. He'd be crazy to leave
Increase the recruiting profile and talent on the team - has done that
Win consistently - we will see how he does this year now that team has been built
Win a championship - some luck involved there, but remaining consistently near the top of the SEC is a good recipe
Fisher has been a great fit at A&M, and has built the team for sustained success. Can't really ask for more at this point in time. He has anything he wants at A&M, and nowhere near the pressure at a school like LSU. I mean we are literally re-landscaping the area outside the stadium, and building him a permanent indoor practice field, as well as numerous other improvements. He'd be crazy to leave
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:46 am to ColoradoAg
Again you’re only looking at it from your perspective
LSU is unquestionably a better job, a place he has a soft spot for, with many pre-established relationships from the AD down to the secretaries, and yes we’d pay him plenty enough.
If you cant take off your ag glasses and understand the dynamics at play then I don’t know what to tell you
LSU is unquestionably a better job, a place he has a soft spot for, with many pre-established relationships from the AD down to the secretaries, and yes we’d pay him plenty enough.
If you cant take off your ag glasses and understand the dynamics at play then I don’t know what to tell you
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
JIMBO WHO!?
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:27 am to TheBiggestBrother
Rent free.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:35 am to NocaHomas Teepee
Eh Ole miss is extremely difficult to win at without cheating. I consider his LSU record to be more valid in comparing them. The talent gap between Alabama and LSU IS #1 to #2-5 recruiting rankings. For Ole Miss it is like a 25-50 rank difference. Hugh Freeze knows all the hookers like Jesus though.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:39 am to TheBiggestBrother
All I know is if history repeats, which it does, said coach will win us a NC
Posted on 8/27/21 at 1:40 am to ColoradoAg
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He has anything he wants at A&M, and nowhere near the pressure at a school like LSU.
Because aggy doesnt really believe they are champions
Posted on 8/27/21 at 2:15 am to aggressor
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may not get anyone from the State of Texas.
Why is this anything of significance? You said it yourself
quote:all done without one kid from “mighty ole Texas”. LSU is about to sign a top 5 class and probably 3/4 of it will be La kids…
virtually no difference in recruiting between LSU and A&M
Posted on 8/27/21 at 5:35 am to aggressor
All the success and championships since then!@@
Posted on 8/27/21 at 5:51 am to Judah Mann
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LSU will be an underdog against Alabama and aTm
No. The game is at LSU, aggy is replacing 4 of 5 o linemen and breaking in a new qb.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 6:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
Regardless of O’s record, decision makers will not allow another Les Miles type mind set to take hold : LM has won X percent, 1 NC and played for another; he averages Y wins per year and has LSU recruiting ranked Z. He beat CNS three times in the last 10 years ——-are you really going to fire him ?
Decision makers look at the program and say—our last two coaches (LM and O) have been complete bafoons and STILL win NCs. Let’s get the next NS or at least someone competent and win 5 NCs in the next 10-15 years.
Decision makers look at the program and say—our last two coaches (LM and O) have been complete bafoons and STILL win NCs. Let’s get the next NS or at least someone competent and win 5 NCs in the next 10-15 years.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 11:47 am to SaDub225
State of Texas has 9 Five Stars and 41 4 Stars. Louisiana is next door and LSU is very close to the prime East Texas and Houston recruiting regions. Can LSU do well without it? Sure, but traditionally you get a few guys from that region and LSU just isn't having the success there that he usually does. If Jimbo also gets Matthews and you don't think that's a concern I guess that's fine but you are in denial.
The post I was responding to was that Jimbo would be able to get better talent at LSU, I just don't see how that is objectively true since he hasn't won any Titles and is doing this well at A&M with the trend only getting stronger.
The post I was responding to was that Jimbo would be able to get better talent at LSU, I just don't see how that is objectively true since he hasn't won any Titles and is doing this well at A&M with the trend only getting stronger.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 11:50 am to texag7
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Jimbo would never leave A&M for LSU
You guys said that about Woodward also.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 11:53 am to aggressor
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State of Texas has 9 Five Stars and 41 4 Stars.
Alabama has raped the state of Texas the last few years and will be signing 5* S Denver Harris this year
Posted on 8/27/21 at 11:58 am to aggressor
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Sure, but traditionally you get a few guys from that region and LSU just isn't having the success there that he usually does.
Orgeron seems to be hitting Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia more on the recruiting trail rather than Texas.
A&M's biggest issue will be whether they can lock Texas down once the Horns and Sooners come over.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:It’s bull shot and you know nothing.
You can believe whatever you want
Woodward never told O, “win 9 games or your fired” and he certainly won’t hire the fricking ULL coach
Just because you slapdicks can’t see past our state boarder doesn’t mean Woodward can’t.
If O bombs it’ll be
1) Lincoln Riley and make him say no
2) Matt Campbell
Napier hasn’t proved anything yet
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:06 pm to SidewalkTiger
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There has been virtually no difference in recruiting between LSU and A&M since Jimbo arrived and that is with LSU able to recruit off a NC.
I mean only that O has THREE top 5 classes in that span and Jimbo finished 5th once.
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for the first time in memory LSU may not get anyone from the State of Texas.
O doesn't recruit Texas nearly as much as Les Miles did.
There's only like 5 Texas kids on the 2021 roster and one is the kicker.
A&M
2019-4
2020-6
2021-8
2022 (current)-8
LSU
2019-5
2020-4
2021-3
2022 (current)-7
I'm not seeing some massive edge there. LSU also has a NC to recruit off of. Also, it looks like A&M will likely end up with the stronger class this year.
Downplay Texas recruiting if you wish but realize that if you took a class of the Top 25 kids in Texas your lowest rated recruit would be 130 in the country. Jackie Sherrill and RC Slocum both had classes they dominated the state and they won 6 SWC Titles in 8 years off of it (7 in 9 if you count the undefeated '94 Season they were ineligible). Mack Brown did the same at Texas during their run in the '00s. The talent now is far better than it was then since the state has grown from 17 million to almost 30 million since 1990.
The point though is that somehow Jimbo will get better talent at LSU than at A&M and that's simply not the case.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:08 pm to Solo Cam
It’s bull shot and you know nothing.
Woodward never told O, “win 9 games or your fired” and he certainly won’t hire the fricking ULL coach
Look man I am a Alabama fan that happens to have a big LSU booster that I fish with. Actually we were supposed to go this weekend. He told me the exact same story that Draconian is talking about 2 weeks ago. I was shocked when I saw him post it. Believe what you want but my LSU buddy is as plugged in as it gets down there
Woodward never told O, “win 9 games or your fired” and he certainly won’t hire the fricking ULL coach
Look man I am a Alabama fan that happens to have a big LSU booster that I fish with. Actually we were supposed to go this weekend. He told me the exact same story that Draconian is talking about 2 weeks ago. I was shocked when I saw him post it. Believe what you want but my LSU buddy is as plugged in as it gets down there
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:12 pm to aggressor
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I'm not seeing some massive edge there.
No one said anything about a "massive edge," you just said there was "virtually no difference" and there actually is.
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The point though is that somehow Jimbo will get better talent at LSU than at A&M and that's simply not the case.
I agree with you. Jimbo is a great recruiter and will pull in strong classes anywhere he goes.
He actually recruited better at Florida State with less resources than he has at A&M.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Again you’re only looking at it from your perspective
LSU is unquestionably a better job, a place he has a soft spot for, with many pre-established relationships from the AD down to the secretaries, and yes we’d pay him plenty enough.
If you cant take off your ag glasses and understand the dynamics at play then I don’t know what to tell you
LSU is a great job, no question. I put out a lot of objective reason why A&M is equal or better as a job though and you are just saying I don't understand the dynamics and greatness of LSU because of maroon glasses. K. Maybe you should take those glasses off yourself.
I understand Fisher has relationships at LSU. It's been a very long time since he coached there though. He is friends with your AD. LSU can probably match salaries with A&M.
Still, why would he leave a great situation at A&M where he has all of that and more? A&M has zero financial limitations, LSU has very few but they are there. College Station is a nicer and safer town than Baton Rouge. He has complete and total support from the Administration and the other coaches of sports such as Track and Baseball actively work with him to get dual athlete recruits like Achane, Foster, and Wiegmann.
Like I said, good luck.
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