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How to fix the LSU offense.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:20 pm
I am guilty of reading the tiger rant for daily laughs and for general entertainment and that seems to be the topic of the week and it should be. So one camp is blaming it on a lack of talent on the OL while the other thinks they need a new OC. The truth is, you need a better quarterback. Burrow sucks. That is just the truth. Coach E has worked around his weakness as a passer the best way he could but still, there is only so much you can do with a limited quarterback.
Of course a Briles or Kiffin type would be an instant upgrade even with a bad quarterback but your scheme this year would have produced had you had a legit passer and maybe a 5 star running back that you typically have. Orgeron probably isn't firing E so your hope is that Burrow transforms into something that he isn't or you bring in a quarterback that can deliver in the current system.
Either way, you will probably win out and possibly end up top 5 or so at year's end. No way O shakes up his staff after a year like that even with a shitty offense.
Of course a Briles or Kiffin type would be an instant upgrade even with a bad quarterback but your scheme this year would have produced had you had a legit passer and maybe a 5 star running back that you typically have. Orgeron probably isn't firing E so your hope is that Burrow transforms into something that he isn't or you bring in a quarterback that can deliver in the current system.
Either way, you will probably win out and possibly end up top 5 or so at year's end. No way O shakes up his staff after a year like that even with a shitty offense.
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:24 pm to Commander Data
Burrow is pretty damn bad, but he's certainly not 100% of the problem. New QB, new OC, new WR coach, new oline...well pretty much everyone sucks.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:25 pm to Commander Data
After we get a new o line, a new qb, all new wr, a new stable of running backs, and a new oc we will be great.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:25 pm to nerd guy
He isn't pretty good. He's a bust considering what he was brought in for and how he has performed. Sorry, but you fans need to understand this.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:28 pm to Commander Data
The OL has been way way worse than Burrow and it's not even close. Burrow has struggled recently but over the course of the season he's shown to be capable in some games, the OL, nah.
In order the problem on the offense is probably:
1. OL
2. Playcalling
3. Burrow
The biggest problem with burrow is he's not good under pressure, and the worst part about that is our OL is absolutely terrible about keeping pressure off him.
A lot of people gave up on Etling after his first year here, and significantly improved his 2nd year. Burrow could every easily do the same if the OL could get their stuff together. The guy has talent and moxie, but no doubt he is BAD under pressure. When he has time, he can pick people apart and make accurate throws.
In order the problem on the offense is probably:
1. OL
2. Playcalling
3. Burrow
The biggest problem with burrow is he's not good under pressure, and the worst part about that is our OL is absolutely terrible about keeping pressure off him.
A lot of people gave up on Etling after his first year here, and significantly improved his 2nd year. Burrow could every easily do the same if the OL could get their stuff together. The guy has talent and moxie, but no doubt he is BAD under pressure. When he has time, he can pick people apart and make accurate throws.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:41 pm to Commander Data
The OL is clearly the issue. Even Tom frickin Brady couldn't do shite vs the Giants when his OL was getting blown up. Traditional Bama teams are a prime example as you've had game manager type QBs have phenomenal seasons in large part due to having a great OL.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:43 pm to cas4t
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The OL is clearly the issue. Even Tom frickin Brady couldn't do shite vs the Giants when his OL was getting blown up. Traditional Bama teams are a prime example as you've had game manager type QBs have phenomenal seasons in large part due to having a great OL.
The OL is the biggest issue, but the other big issue is there isn't a gamebreaking back. That combination is a disaster.
Burrow would be a pretty solid QB for Alabama or Georgia, I think.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:44 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:I disagree with this. I think he's made a bunch of really clutch throws in crunch time that have been difference makers in key games. I also haven't seen him totally shite the bed as far as getting jumpy and getting happy feet. He's not perfect, but saying he's not good under pressure, particularly relative to what we've had for the last ten years is demonstrably false.
The biggest problem with burrow is he's not good under pressure
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:45 pm to Commander Data
We outgained Bama last year head to head. Shoulda kept Canada for another year at least
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:49 pm to Commander Data
Most people are saying we need to modernize our offense. We're not going to win any championships with an outdated offensive philosophy.
I would be interested to see what Canada could have done with Burrow. Coach O fired Canada for Steve.
I would be interested to see what Canada could have done with Burrow. Coach O fired Canada for Steve.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:00 pm to Commander Data
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How to fix the LSU offense
That's been the question for 8 years.
Just blaming a player or saying they just need better players is dumb.
LSU has had NFL players all over the offense for years.
It is 90% scheme/philosophy/playcalling
SE offense is no different than when he took over in 2016. Basically Miles' offense ran out of a shotgun base set. The exact same rushing attack between tackles and deep arse passing tree.
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No way O shakes up his staff after a year like that even with a shitty offense.
Offense is ranked 104th, and near the bottom of almost every offensive category. That doesn't fall on JB. He has his flaws, but this is on SE/CEO.
If CEO wants to stay at LSU, he better shake it up. BC this is what got Miles fired. But I agree, he wont make a change.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:03 pm to Commander Data
I said pretty much the same thing and got kicked off Tiger Rant 
8 in a row has turned them into a bunch of pusses
8 in a row has turned them into a bunch of pusses
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:07 pm to Paul B Ammer
The O line isn’t as bad as they played Saturday but still behind some talent wise. Honestly I think Bama is just in the offense’s head at this point, I think most of them just played tight except for Jefferson and Helaire.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:12 pm to Commander Data
Burrow has good numbers when we keep him clean. But that’s the problem he’s running for his life
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:16 pm to Paul B Ammer
quote:There is a lot of scum on the Rant. None worse than Bama fans though,
I said pretty much the same thing and got kicked off Tiger Rant
8 in a row has turned them into a bunch of pusses
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:19 pm to TigerMond84
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The O line isn’t as bad as they played Saturday but still behind some talent wise
That offensive line is pretty damn bad.
- 88th nationally in yards per rush
- 89th nationally in sacks per game allowed
- 88th nationally in tackles for loss allowed
Their advanced stats are even worse
- 88th in stuff rate
- 103rd in rushing efficiency
- 94th in standard down sack rate
- 92nd in sack rate
- 86th in passing down sack rate
- 87th in blitz down sack rate
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Hell we’ve had game breaking backs with a shite OL vs y’all and still got hammered at the LOS.
I’m fully convinced the absolute only way LSU can compete with bama is if we really build up both OL and DL, but more importantly OL. With depth. It’s been our consistent issue for years now.
Glad we addressed the same issues under new leadership. /s
I’m fully convinced the absolute only way LSU can compete with bama is if we really build up both OL and DL, but more importantly OL. With depth. It’s been our consistent issue for years now.
Glad we addressed the same issues under new leadership. /s
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:39 pm to Commander Data
Honestly I'd settle for hiring a coordinator who's last stint didn't end after going 2-10 at a high school and being fired.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:42 pm to cas4t
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Hell we’ve had game breaking backs with a shite OL vs y’all and still got hammered at the LOS.
Yea, but against everyone else LSU had a pretty decent offense. Their overall numbers were usually somewhere in the Top 40.
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I’m fully convinced the absolute only way LSU can compete with bama is if we really build up both OL and DL, but more importantly OL. With depth. It’s been our consistent issue for years now.
But yea, I agree, LSU has not had enough NFL level talent up front to beat Alabama. And now, that OL talent is worse than ever AND they had dont have any gamebreaking backs. It's an ugly combo.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:44 pm to nerd guy
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Burrow is pretty damn bad
This is why I hate LSU fans. Joe burrow was the man when he led a game winning drive against auburn, played well against Georgia and Miami but when he couldn’t have some freak career performance against Alabama & state, he sucks and we’re doomed. Jesus people pump the fricking breaks he doesn’t suck. He’s average and that’s more than what we’re used to seeing at LSU. He can improve if coaches develop him a some more.
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