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How South Carolina improved its offense after Florida
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:20 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:20 am
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Leading up to the last two games,.the Gamecocks had 19 different personnel packages and none was ever used often enough for the players to develop rhythm and chemistry together because the personnel was constantly being changed. Former offensive coordinator Marcus Satterfield was notified after the Florida debacle that he would not be returning and the number of personnel groupings was reduced from 19 all the way down to just five. This not only simplified the offense for the players but also allowed them to be much more comfortable with the game plan and what they were going to be asked to do on the field. It is also the reason you did not see any issues with the play clock running down while they were running players on and off the field while waiting for the play call, which obviously improves the overall rhythm of the offense. The reduced number of groupings also kept the best playmakers on the field more often.
Little concerning that Beamer didn’t realize that 19 personnel groupings was a bad idea until 23 games into his tenure. Easily could have been a 10 win season if they realized the obvious problem beforehand
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:30 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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Former offensive coordinator Marcus Satterfield was notified after the Florida debacle that he would not be returning
I didn't know that. Very interesting to be honest.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:35 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Took long enough but it really made a big difference. Wish Satt well at Nebraska, but glad he is gone.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:36 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Sounds like more of an install/personnel problem.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:48 am to gatordmb89
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Sounds like more of an install/personnel problem.
Satt was trying to get "perfect" packages on the field. I guess he never heard what 19th century German field Marshal Helmuth von Moltke once said (paraphrased here) “No plan survives contact with the enemy." (I bet Mike Leach knows the origin of that one...)
What Satt's multiple personnel groupings really did was allow DC's to know what plays were coming based upon our offensive personnel on the field.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:49 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Simpler is better
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:02 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Could you link where you got that from? I’d like to read it.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:25 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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Little concerning that Beamer didn’t realize that 19 personnel groupings was a bad idea until 23 games into his tenure. Easily could have been a 10 win season if they realized the obvious problem beforehand
So from 19 to just 5?
I am going to need to see that on paper. There are so many packages, and each is different depending on the players substituted. I want to see what the 19 were and what the 5 are now. There may have been an issue playing too many and they are now playing less, but I am highly doubting it went from 19 to 5. Seems like an oversimplification.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:39 am to bigDgator
All I know is Rattler looked better at the end of the season.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:44 am to makersmark1
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Why did #0 put his name in the portal?
Dude was getting all kinds of touches late in season.
Satterfield's offense was so complicated we rarely got sustainable drives. This also left Bell out of formations because we hardly had 2nd/3rd and short.
Bell was getting those touches late in the season because Marshawn Lloyd and Christian Beal-Smith were both injured at the same time. Bell had to pick up the slack and act as our RB1.
As the TE1 in the system, with most boards saying he was a 1st round draft choice, he was left out of the offense for most of the year until injuries forced Satterfield to use him. I wish him the best of luck.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:02 am to Lonnie Utah
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Satt was trying to get "perfect" packages on the field.
Perfect is the enemy of the good.
Arkansas beat USC this year 44-30 but if the two teams played this week I don't think highly of our chances. Sometime less is a lot more.
We had the same problem with Chad Morris trying to get our offense perfect ("I've only got 35% installed" is a scary thing to hear going into the second season) and as a result we couldn't do anything right. The Gamecocks had the talent there all along, what they didn't have was a solid plan for that talent.
Something, I might add, that my South Carolina friends on here have been saying for at least a year.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:21 am to bigDgator
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I am going to need to see that on paper. There are so many packages, and each is different depending on the players substituted. I want to see what the 19 were and what the 5 are now. There may have been an issue playing too many and they are now playing less, but I am highly doubting it went from 19 to 5. Seems like an oversimplification.
Personnel groupings. You can still run many different formations and plays off those groupings.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:57 am to PrezCock
Not only what PrezCock said but also Bell's mother was very vocal on social media about him not getting touches and as they say when mama ain't happy, no one is happy!
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:18 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Personnel groupings. You can still run many different formations and plays off those groupings.
Packages, personnel groupings, formations, whatever. I want to see what it was and what it is. I didn't see a lot of additional substitutions when Carolina played Florida, so I am curious.
Not sure why OP can't provide a link.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:18 pm to gamecockhub
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Bell's mother
I like Bell, and think he can be very successful at the next level.
But I will not miss the constant drama surrounding his family. Good luck.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:22 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
From a message board, and a subscription one at that.
I am not trying to be a pest here, because I really want to know what the difference was. South Carolina would have killed Florida had you played us a week or two later.
I would really like to know, because it was night and day different.
I am not trying to be a pest here, because I really want to know what the difference was. South Carolina would have killed Florida had you played us a week or two later.
I would really like to know, because it was night and day different.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:27 pm to bigDgator
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Another change they made was to use Nate Adkins in the backfield more to help protect Spencer Rattler's blind side while also having another traditional tight end on the field, which gave Rattler more comfort and time in the pocket to throw the ball vertically. I was also told Rattler had a ton of confidence that his receivers would be where they needed to be if he had time in the pocket, especially Juice Wells and Josh Vann, so he felt good doing what he has been trained to do his whole life and just let it rip. The pressure was also off of Satterfield since he knew he would not be back, which is why he developed the "nothing to lose" attitude he referenced in his press conferences after the Tennessee game and leading up to the Clemson game. I can also tell you there were some on the offensive side of the ball who wanted the personnel groupings to be reduced weeks earlier than it happened, but it did not take place for whatever reason.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:56 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
Thanks for that. It is amazing what can happen when you aren't worrying about screwing up. Carolina turned the corner just like every team hopes to as the season goes along. UF didn't just dodge a bullet, we dodged a bomb.
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