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re: How many times each SEC school should make the 12 team CFB playoff
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:57 pm to JohnnyTour11
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:57 pm to JohnnyTour11
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And do you truly believe this translates to a conference that actually plays defense?
We'll be better than we have been in the Big 12.
Texas is leaving a conference where every team's biggest game of the season is UT. And every player is out to prove they should've been offered by Texas.
I'm excited about joining a conference that does not care about us or see us as a threat.
Our recruiting will improve because A&M no longer gets to play their "represent Texas in the big leagues" card.
We'll be in the top 12 more often than not.
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:57 pm to meansonny
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If you don't like it, don't watch.
I do not watch.
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Why do you have to spit on a game that other teams are playing?
Because it waters down the bowl season. You may not feel that it does, but the general consensus has been that there are far too many bowl games being played.
Now, the number I prefer may be far fewer than what others would prefer, but never have I heard "Man, there are too few bowl games!" Or "Man, there are just enough bowl games!"
We definitely aren't in the "Goldilocks" zone.
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Out of conference games are much more exciting than the same in conference crap that we get with divisional play.
I do not disagree, but neither do I care to see 6-6 xxx from the Mountain West vs 7-5 xxx from the ACC.
Maybe this is another "old man yells at clouds" moment for me. I don't know. I'm generally open minded.
But, I know why I stopped watching the NFL, which I dearly loved, and I see D-1 football following the same path. We are watching it's uniqueness disappear in our own time.
And that, my friend, isn't an opinion. You may agree with the changes, or agree with me, but you can't deny that it is falling in line with every other format that is offered across the board.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:58 pm to JohnnyTour11
quote:You didn't. I did. If you, a "Mississippi State fan" can mention Texas, can I not do the same?
Guess I missed where I mentioned Mississippi State anywhere.
Sorry it hurt your feelings.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:59 pm to ukraine_rebel
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Would have liked our chances in 2008 and 2015, were clicking on all cylinders by the end of both years and had beaten the national champs in the regular season.
2009 don’t think we’d have gotten in, 2003 could’ve happened would’ve made it to second round w Eli before being bounced by USC or LSU
2014 too depleted at years end
2021 think we could’ve beaten Baylor at home but lost the next round at Bama.
This is fair. Thank you for the reply and detailed explanation.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:04 pm to Cheer
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Making the playoffs will no longer be an achievement.
I think it will just result in a new concept of “making the final four” like we have in basketball and analogous to making the CWS.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:09 pm to Cheer
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Why do you have to spit on a game that other teams are playing?
Because it waters down the bowl season
Lol
Does the regular season water down the regular season?
Does divisional play water down divisional play?
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You may not feel that it does, but the general consensus has been that there are far too many bowl games being played
People like to complain.
Dawg fans evidently complain about Searels and Kendall Milton. It is stupid. College football fans complaining about football matchups that are pretty evenly scaled? Lol
Let me guess. You hate high school and division 2 football too. The teams aren't good enough.
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I do not disagree, but neither do I care to see 6-6 xxx from the Mountain West vs 7-5 xxx from the ACC
If it is a close game or the mountain west blows out the acc school, then I love it.
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But, I know why I stopped watching the NFL, which I dearly loved, and I see D-1 football following the same path. We are watching it's uniqueness disappear in our own time.
And that, my friend, isn't an opinion. You may agree with the changes, or agree with me, but you can't deny that it is falling in line with every other format that is offered across the board.
I don't mind a playoff because it is more games.
I mind the playoff because it makes the regular season worthless.
UGA would be in the playoff 11 out of the past 12 years. It should be more difficult than that.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:13 pm to MillerLiteTime
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The truth is that the 4 team playoff already killed the regular season / bowl system irreparably.
It absolutely murdered bowls...all of them outside of the designated playoff bowls, no question about that.
I believe the regular season was largely kept intact, at the least in terms of the gravity of a loss. Moving to twelve will undoubtedly change that, and I hate it, however we don't have much choice at this point b/c the playoff train as left the station.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:16 pm to Cheer
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This is fair. Thank you for the reply and detailed explanation.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:45 pm to Parrish_Dawg
An expanded playoff helps the sport and hopefully it gets rid of these 6-6 type bowls. Maybe these players will stop opting out.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:51 pm to dchog
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An expanded playoff helps the sport and hopefully it gets rid of these 6-6 type bowls
Aren't you 6-6?
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Maybe these players will stop opting out.
Agents are telling kids to opt out. The agents don't want to damage their meal ticket. They may be right (but their intentions aren't pure). Nothing will change.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:53 pm to ukraine_rebel
That 2015 Arkansas team had some close losses. 51-50 state, 16-12 Toledo and 28-21 OT A&M. A five loss team that should have only lost to Texas Tech and Bama.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:59 pm to meansonny
Yes with four losses by 13 points and began the year ranked in the top 20, losing six games don't deserve going to a bowl.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:13 pm to Scoper
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Once every 3 or 4 years
Texas
Since 2010, Texas has not had less than 4 losses in a full regular season. And that's playing in their own conference they built and controlled with only one other team (OU) who has been relevant on the national stage.
They would have been 0-12 qualifying for a 16 team in that stretch. The only thing keeping them from being Nebraska is 800 miles of prairie grass.
They will be the slightly lesser equivalent of a UCLA when they come into the SEC.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:41 pm to DawginSC
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Over the last 20 years (2002-2021), here's how many times each SEC team would have been in the top 12 of the BCS or playoff rankings. OU: 14/20 (2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020) Bama: 12/20 (2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020, 2021) Georgia: 11/20 (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2012, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021) LSU: 11/20 (2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2018, 2019) Florida: 8/20 (2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2018, 2019, 2020) Auburn: 7/20 (2004, 2005, 2006, 2010, 2013, 2017, 2019) Texas: 6/20 (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009) Arkansas: 3/20 (2006, 2010, 2011) Mizzou: 3/20 (2007, 2010, 2013 South Carolina: 3/20 (2011, 2012, 2013) Ole Miss: 3/20 (2014, 2015, 2021) A&M: 2/20 (2012, 2020) MSU: 1/20 (2014) Tennessee: 1/20 (2003) UK: 0/20 Vandy: 0/20
Reality has finally set in for the blow hards!
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:46 pm to Cheer
you say this but, remember the cincinatti frickery? you really want more of that?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:57 pm to Scoper
Ole Miss too high
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:01 pm to BuckI
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Really only 4 teams will be contenders most years. That being Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Tennessee.
The rest of the league isn't very competitive.
Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee are all capable of pulling in the type of talent required to win national titles given the right coach and circumstances. The entire rest of the league outside of Vandy has had 10 win seasons in fairly recent history.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:08 pm to DawginSC
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OU: 14/20 (2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020)
Bama: 12/20 (2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020, 2021)
Georgia: 11/20 (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2012, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021)
LSU: 11/20 (2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2018, 2019)
Florida: 8/20 (2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2018, 2019, 2020)
Auburn: 7/20 (2004, 2005, 2006, 2010, 2013, 2017, 2019)
Texas: 6/20 (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009)
Arkansas: 3/20 (2006, 2010, 2011)
Mizzou: 3/20 (2007, 2010, 2013
South Carolina: 3/20 (2011, 2012, 2013)
Ole Miss: 3/20 (2014, 2015, 2021)
A&M: 2/20 (2012, 2020)
MSU: 1/20 (2014)
Tennessee: 1/20 (2003)
UK: 0/20
Vandy: 0/20
This is what will make a 12 team playoff so intriguing. How interesting would it have been to see Dak Prescott's MSU, Manziel's aTm, Ryan Mallett's Arkansas, or Spurrier's Carolina teams in a playoff?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:08 pm to dchog
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Yes with four losses by 13 points and began the year ranked in the top 20, losing six games don't deserve going to a bowl.
You would piss away 15 practices and an exhibition game because you are bitter.
No wonder Arkansas is a 6-6 team.
They don't know how to get better.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:10 pm to Wanderin Reb
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We would have made a 12 team playoff in 2003, 2008 2009, 2014, 2015, and 2020.
This is literally the problem with 12 teams. Mediocre program makes playoffs 30% of the time. Might as well call it NFL v2.
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