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re: How is TM7 not first team all-american?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:09 pm to memphisplaya
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:09 pm to memphisplaya
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Ron brooks?
BINGO, our 4th friggin CB had a year similar to Menzie all things considered. What a joke.
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:09 pm to Festus
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Tyrann Mathieu has 70 tackles this year. Check your source again.
Wrong corner...
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:09 pm to memphisplaya
he has less tackles so he must be better
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:10 pm to Festus
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Unnamed CB - 29 tackles, 6.5 TFL, 3.5 Sacks, 2 INT, 6 Pass BRK UP, 2 FF, 3 FR, 2 Defensive TD
Tyrann Mathieu has 70 tackles this year. Check your source again.
Good call, but that's NOT Tyrann Mathieu's stat line, it's someone elses. Try again.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:10 pm to thunderbird1100
What did I win?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:10 pm to Choupique19
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This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:10 pm to thunderbird1100
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Menzie - 37 tackles, 3.0 TFL, 1.5 Sacks, 1 INT, 11 Pass BRK UP, 1 FR
Menzie had a TD as well.
To clarify, no the touchdown doesn't make a difference.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:10 pm to thunderbird1100
I give up.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:10 pm to Festus
I'm saying he didn't get voted AA because he is not an elite cover guy. Coaches are very traditional creatures. They like players to fit in their perceptions of the position. TM7 doesn't. Has nothing to do with whether he is "great" or not. It may have more to do with "they didn't know what to do with him".
And, to be fair, the drug thing probably cost him.
And, to be fair, the drug thing probably cost him.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:11 pm to thunderbird1100
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What a joke.
HB7's stats at mid-season > Menzie all year
troof
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:11 pm to thunderbird1100
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Here's and interesting comparison.
Menzie - 37 tackles, 3.0 TFL, 1.5 Sacks, 1 INT, 11 Pass BRK UP, 1 FR
Unnamed CB - 29 tackles, 6.5 TFL, 3.5 Sacks, 2 INT, 6 Pass BRK UP, 2 FF, 3 FR, 2 Defensive TD
Anyone got a gander who the Unnamed DB is?
Does this encapsulate our season, or what?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:11 pm to memphisplaya
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What did I win?
1st team AFCA All-American status! BOOM!
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:11 pm to Festus
I think what you see with traditional top notch cover guys, is that once the opponents realize who they are... they simply don't get thrown at. And their stats can then be deceivingly low.
Mathieu makes so many plays on someone else's man, or stripping the ball in a gang tackle, or just knowing where the ball is at every second (think Larry Bird), or reading the "tell" of the opposing QB, etc. He does so much MORE than what a traditional CB/DB does. I know its being seen as an insult that he's being overlooked for AA... but he's truly just so head scratchingly puzzlingly awesome... its almost unbelievable.
Mathieu makes so many plays on someone else's man, or stripping the ball in a gang tackle, or just knowing where the ball is at every second (think Larry Bird), or reading the "tell" of the opposing QB, etc. He does so much MORE than what a traditional CB/DB does. I know its being seen as an insult that he's being overlooked for AA... but he's truly just so head scratchingly puzzlingly awesome... its almost unbelievable.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:12 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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And, to be fair, the drug thing probably cost him.
Why hasn't it cost people in the past?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:12 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I'm saying he didn't get voted AA because he is not an elite cover guy.
My question to you, though, is do you consider him to be an elite DB?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:13 pm to memphisplaya
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What did I win?
A brand new CAR!!!!
You just have to fish it out of Ryan Dunn's arse circa 2002.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:13 pm to SoFla Tideroller
it's the coaches vote anyways. i wouldn't be surprised if TM7 was picked for every other All-American team.
he probably got left off because of the suspension. coaches don't like that kind of stuff from a player.
he'll get his due, guys.
he probably got left off because of the suspension. coaches don't like that kind of stuff from a player.
he'll get his due, guys.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:14 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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It may have more to do with "they didn't know what to do with him".
This.
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And, to be fair, the drug thing probably cost him.
And this.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:14 pm to coloradoBengal
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I think what you see with traditional top notch cover guys, is that once the opponents realize who they are... they simply don't get thrown at. And their stats can then be deceivingly low.
Would be the only argument about Menzie, but teams obviously threw the ball at him if he had 11 pass breakups, and still 37 tackles, the majority of them solo. Menzie isn't a playmaker is the issue here, just your run the mill good cover corner. There's a few handfulls of those in CFB.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 12/5/11 at 1:14 pm to dapado33
his point was GENIUS that neither Troy or Ed are can "cover", yet they are without question the 2 best safeties in the league....
now, say something else stupid you dumb@ss???
now, say something else stupid you dumb@ss???
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