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re: How good is your coaching staff at developing low-star players?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:19 pm to Smokeyone
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:19 pm to Smokeyone
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Ladd McConkey
averaged 50 yards a game, or 153 per game in the NCAA. Not really a “diamond”.
He was the leading wide receiver on the college football championship team for 2022. A team that threw for 4100 yards and 27 TDs.
He also rushed for 134 yards.
Combined for 9 TDs (1 behind Brock Bowers. You may have heard of him)
And that was his sophomore year.
I'd take McConkey over Hyatt. Ladd actually can make contested catches. It is kind of a good trait in a wide receiver in addition to his 22+ mph speed.
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:20 pm to Smokeyone
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Not really a “diamond”.
We all know that Ladd was a Vol fan and didn't get an offer from his dream school.
Of course the Vols are hating on the kid from their own backyard.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 5:54 pm to Smokeyone
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averaged 50 yards a game, or 153 per game in the NCAA. Not really a “diamond”.
3 star becomes an All Sec WR / NATIONAL champion = diamond
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:00 pm to Darindawg
We’ve put a lot of 3 stars in the league through the years, so I’m confused with that you’re asking. You mean how many 2 stars to unranked to walks on we put in? The last one I could remember is the year we got the 12th man drafted in 2019, Cullen Gillaspia.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:36 pm to BluegrassBelle
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That's Stoops bread and butter. Josh Allen is a good example of it. He was committed to Monmouth at one point as a 2* product.
Randall Cobb just entered the chat.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:42 pm to JayAg
Don't over-think it, I was just asking how you thought you're coaching staff was at developing players that were not in the 4 and 5 star recruit crowd, that's all.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:47 pm to Darindawg
Then we are pretty good at that except probably at WR. The “3 star” that has been exceeding expectations and will probably get drafted is Tyreek Chappell, starting CB. But that MFer started as a freshman, bc he was that good.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:49 pm to Darindawg
Stoops has put a pile of low ranked high school recruits into the league.
Josh Allen
Benny snell
Jamin Davis
Chris Rodriguez
Bud Dupree
Luke Fortner
Logan Stenberg
Zadarius Smith
Those are the few I can think of right off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more.
Josh Allen
Benny snell
Jamin Davis
Chris Rodriguez
Bud Dupree
Luke Fortner
Logan Stenberg
Zadarius Smith
Those are the few I can think of right off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:49 pm to Smokeyone
Gees dude, I realize this forum is pretty much a dwelling place for sarcasm, condescension, and fanbases attacking one another, but would it kill you to just ONCE answer a freaking thread question without trying to take some kind of shot at someone? My God man, did a UGA fan back over your favorite toy in their truck when you was a kid or something?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:50 pm to Darindawg
I’ll just say I’m extremely satisfied with that aspect of the Kentucky staff but I think it’s one part development, one part evaluation. Stoops is very adept at spotting guys who are undervalued.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:53 pm to OleManDixon
I think you're right...being thorough in evaluating talent cannot be overstated.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:00 pm to Darindawg
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:18 pm to TideSaint
3 star on the composite
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:23 pm to Darindawg
I apologize then.
So far Huepel was able to turn around a throw away QB he didn’t recruit in Hooker and we shall see in one he did recruit in Milton. But that speaks more to his ability to coach up rather find low star recruits.
Maybe the example of Bryon Young fits better. A guy that had given up on football, decided to tryout at Georgia Military Academy and was found by Tennessee and was his 1st P5 offer. He’s now living his dream after being a 3rd round pick.
Or Jaylen Wright undersized 3* RB to 875 yards averaging 6 ypc.
Or Squirrel White an undersized 3* WR that has worked his way into a likely starting role.
So far Huepel was able to turn around a throw away QB he didn’t recruit in Hooker and we shall see in one he did recruit in Milton. But that speaks more to his ability to coach up rather find low star recruits.
Maybe the example of Bryon Young fits better. A guy that had given up on football, decided to tryout at Georgia Military Academy and was found by Tennessee and was his 1st P5 offer. He’s now living his dream after being a 3rd round pick.
Or Jaylen Wright undersized 3* RB to 875 yards averaging 6 ypc.
Or Squirrel White an undersized 3* WR that has worked his way into a likely starting role.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:50 pm to Darindawg
Basketball terrible
Football pretty good
Football pretty good
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:53 pm to Darindawg
Mizzou was once really good at this.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:25 am to meansonny
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There are low star players who are athletic freaks but extremely raw out of high school (Jordan Davis, Eric stokes).
And there are players who are just ballers but don't have the athletic traits to stand out in an underwear olympics (Javon Bullard was the 82nd best CB in his high school class. Jamon Dumas-Johnson was the 31st best ILB in his high school class)
Theres plenty of low star players who are athletic freaks and polished
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:29 am to NawFoo
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Mizzou was once really good at this.
Was just about to ask where the Mizzou fans are. Pinkel was phenomenal at player development.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:38 am to Darindawg
LSU has more 3 star players on NFL rosters than any other school
Some of the tigers
Justin Jefferson
Foster Moreau
Loyd Cushenberry
Deion Jones
Dj Chark
Russell Gage
Duke Riley
Some of the tigers
Justin Jefferson
Foster Moreau
Loyd Cushenberry
Deion Jones
Dj Chark
Russell Gage
Duke Riley
Posted on 6/3/23 at 3:14 pm to JeffLebowski
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Was just about to ask where the Mizzou fans are. Pinkel was phenomenal at player development.
That or finding recruits that were being over looked. It's hard to tell unless you're in the program every day
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