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re: How does a team beat Georgia one week and lose to Vandy the next?
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:33 am to MenloDawg
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:33 am to MenloDawg
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UGA has won two of the last three title and still has the coach who won them. I don’t really need excuses. UGA just had an off night where they turned the ball over an uncharacteristic amount of times leading to a one possession loss on the road to a worse team. It happens in conference play.
Smart is as good, maybe the best, coach in CFB currently. That said UGA starts slowly and Smart and company simply shite the bed when they face Alabama, for whatever reason. Yes, UGA has won 2 of the last 3 Natty's and had it not been for shitting the bed against Alabama probably won 3 of 3. UGA coming back in the game was impressive but it did not happen without Alabama losing focus after getting out to a seemingly insurmountable lead. Given the issues Bama has had with untimely penalties its obvious there is a change in the expectations at Bama between Saban and DeBoer....its not logical to think that Bama players lost some of their edge in the UGA game after going up 28-0 and almost fricked around and found out.
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:02 am to 3down10
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You lost to the team that lost to Vandy and all you have is excuses.
There is a pretty sizeable list of teams that I expect UGA would lose to if they go -3 in turnover margin. One of the reasons I'm pretty positive after that loss is I don't think we'll be -3 in turnovers again this season.
Bama was -2 in turnovers against Vandy and lost by 5. It's the biggest impact on winning or losing a football game.
If UGA puts up another -3 turnover margin game, even against a team like Florida or Mississippi State, we'll likely lose that game too.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:23 am to DawginSC
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There is a pretty sizeable list of teams that I expect UGA would lose to if they go -3 in turnover margin. One of the reasons I'm pretty positive after that loss is I don't think we'll be -3 in turnovers again this season.
Bama was -2 in turnovers against Vandy and lost by 5. It's the biggest impact on winning or losing a football game.
If UGA puts up another -3 turnover margin game, even against a team like Florida or Mississippi State, we'll likely lose that game too.
Your turnovers were forced because your QB was unable to recognize the blitzes and coverage.
Alabama had a pick 6 against Vandy and it was just a tipped ball that a defender was able to grab for a TD.
It was not the same thing.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:28 am to 3down10
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No way in hell am I trading. But you do you.
Lol you’d have rather lost to vandy than UGA?
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:34 am to MenloDawg
So the offense turnovers lost it..?
Did the UGA offense allow one player to go for 491 yds and 4TD's?
Unforced safety? LOLOL Beck threw the ball into nowhere land because 2 Bama players were about to knock his eyes closer together.
Bama played 4 quarters and beat yall. Let it go, move on and quit sucking off Vandy to feel better.
Did the UGA offense allow one player to go for 491 yds and 4TD's?
Unforced safety? LOLOL Beck threw the ball into nowhere land because 2 Bama players were about to knock his eyes closer together.
Bama played 4 quarters and beat yall. Let it go, move on and quit sucking off Vandy to feel better.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:38 am to Champagne
Trap game
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:42 am to TN Tygah
You try too hard.
Did you get tea bagged a few years ago?
Did you get tea bagged a few years ago?
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:02 am to 3down10
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Your turnovers were forced because your QB was unable to recognize the blitzes and coverage.
Alabama had a pick 6 against Vandy and it was just a tipped ball that a defender was able to grab for a TD.
It was not the same thing.
Ah, the old "when we get a turnover we FORCED it. When we turned the ball over it was just bad luck" argument.
Look, turnovers are always a combination of bad play or bad luck by the team turning the ball over and good play/good luck by the team who recovered the turnover. But if you look at season statistics as a whole, you start to see when they indicate an anomaly vs being a pattern.
So here's the reality.
UGA has four turnovers this season. And all four of them were against Bama.
They have 0 turnovers in their other 4 games.
Alabama has 8 turnovers recovered this year... 4 against UGA.
So while you can puff your chest out and say it was all due to Bama being great if you like, the reality is that's a VERY atypical result for UGA and for Bama. Other than this game UGA averages 0 turnovers and Bama averages forcing one per game. And yeah, a big part of that was mistakes and bad luck for UGA. It's not particularly likely that UGA has another 4 turnover game this season, even if they happen to end up facing Bama again.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 11:04 am
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:29 am to SavageAF
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So the offense turnovers lost it..?
Did the UGA offense allow one player to go for 491 yds and 4TD's?
Yes, the turnovers lost it.
While Bama did tear a hole in UGA's defense, UGA also tore a hole in Bama's. Both teams had 500+ yards of offense. If instead of the turnovers being 3 in bama's favor they were 2 in UGA's favor (like the Vandy game was) UGA would have won by multiple scores (that would have been a 5 turnover swing).
That obviously didn't happen, but it's not exactly rocket science to say that having 3 more turnovers than your opponent in a 1 score game likely is a primary reason for losing the game.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:47 am to Champagne
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How does a team beat Georgia one week and lose to Vandy the next?
Score more points than Georgia and fewer than Vandy?
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:08 pm to DawginSC
Great use of the word likely.
While I don't disagree the TO's contributed, but that is just part of the story.
One of UGA TO's was turned right back over, and another happened in the EZ at the end of the game.
So Bama only capitalized off 1 TO, and it was a 1 score game....
So it appears the 491 yds and 4 TD's, and the safety which was forced by Bama's defense contributed greatly in the win.
Rocket Science is easy.
While I don't disagree the TO's contributed, but that is just part of the story.
One of UGA TO's was turned right back over, and another happened in the EZ at the end of the game.
So Bama only capitalized off 1 TO, and it was a 1 score game....
So it appears the 491 yds and 4 TD's, and the safety which was forced by Bama's defense contributed greatly in the win.
Rocket Science is easy.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:17 pm to DawginSC
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Ah, the old "when we get a turnover we FORCED it. When we turned the ball over it was just bad luck" argument.
If you don't understand the difference between a tipped ball resulting in a pick six and your QB not recognizing coverages and blitzes for nearly 2 quarters, then that's on you and there isn't much to talk about.
Vandy forced the 2nd turnover.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:41 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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I don’t know. Losing to Vandy when you are ranked #1 is pretty damning.
Why would anybody with any SEC football knowledge downvote this post.
When you are Alabama and ranked #1, you CAN"T lose to Vanderbilt!
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:48 pm to olddawg26
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Lol you’d have rather lost to vandy than UGA?
I'd rather have a win over Georgia than Vandy.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:48 pm to GurleyGirl
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Turnovers. Beck threw 3 unforced INT, 1 lost fumble and a Safety throwing to the middle of nowhere from the endzone. Heck, with just one of those things absent, we at least tie the game. With no TO's we win by at least a TD. Our run blocking was bad but our OL was giving Beck plenty of time to throw the ball; he just had the worst game of his career against Alabama of course.
IF in a hypothetical vacuum MY team gets every break and doesn’t commit errors WHILE at same time we don’t apply hypothetical vacuum scenario to YOUR team, MY team wins.
Lmao. This is literally 95% of the little dipshits opinions on the rant. None of yall can be objective.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:56 pm to Champagne
Kane Womack is the easy answer, he made no adjustments and gave up 40 to Vandy running a high school offense.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:59 pm to demtigers73
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gave up 40
33 but your point still stands. Vandy kicked our arse all day long.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:03 pm to ronricks
What’s crazy about it is the way they kicked your arse! 166yds rushing against an Alabama defense!
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:39 pm to SavageAF
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One of UGA TO's was turned right back over, and another happened in the EZ at the end of the game.
So Bama only capitalized off 1 TO, and it was a 1 score game....
So it appears the 491 yds and 4 TD's, and the safety which was forced by Bama's defense contributed greatly in the win.
Rocket Science is easy.
The turnover at the end of the game was pretty big. UGA had just entered the red zone with 45 seconds left to get a TD to send the game to OT.
One turnover led to a 22 yard field for Bama to get a TD.
One led to UGA instead of having a drive start at the 35 getting the ball back on their 5 yard line which led to a safety.
And the last was on Bama's side of the field on a first down play but due to good defense by UGA ended up just costing them 4 minutes of clock and 30 yards of field position.
Yes, all of those (even the exchange of picks) were negatives for UGA's chances to win the game.
Turnovers were the major part of the story. They were the major part of the story in the Vandy/Bama game too. Bama would have won if the turnover margin was even against Vandy instead of -2, no question.
UGA would have won if the turnover margin were even against Bama instead of -3. Turnovers are a big deal. Usually teams that are worse than -1 in turnover margin don't win. If they do win at -2 or worse, their opponent is usually horribly outmatched in talent.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:40 pm to Champagne
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How does a team beat Georgia one week and lose to Vandy the next?
Well see, you play the games that the SEC scheduled. First you beat Georgia, then you lose to Vandy. That is how it does.
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