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re: How did Tennessee become such a dumpster fire after being a traditional power for decades?

Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:19 am to
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:19 am to
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BrotherDawg84





Tennessee has suffered 2 decades of horrible football...still 2 spots above Georgia (as far back as this calculator goes).

1869-2020
10) Tennessee - 0.671
12) Georgia - 0.656

Posted by weatherguy
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Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:29 am to
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I have a computer and electricity.


Don't say that too loud. Those two things are world-class luxuries in South GA.
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:32 am to
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This is the typical slob who posts on the rant. Your standard baw
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:42 am to
Bad coaching. UT has always had to recruit against the rest of the SEC. People in this thread be acting like UGA or UF or Bama suddenly just came onto the scene in the last 10 years. The only team that came onto the scene in that time is Clemson.

Also part of it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. UT fans expect terribleness and that's what they get.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:49 am to
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He went 7-6 his first SEC season and then left. You can't just say "he was a bad hire." It's impossible to know what he would have done had he stayed. Kirby Smart had 0 yrs as HC experience...did that make him a bad hire?

Should have hired Gary Patterson though.

So 7-6 and then leaving in the middle of the night right before signing day wasn't bad?
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:51 am to
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Tennessee has suffered 2 decades of horrible football...still 2 spots above Georgia (as far back as this calculator goes).

1869-2020
10) Tennessee - 0.671
12) Georgia - 0.656

UGA leads the series now though.
Posted by theaerialview
Member since May 2013
458 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:55 am to
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How else did they recruit 5 star talent nationally to come and play in Knoxville damn Tennessee with a hillbilly fan base?


Because they were putting the most players in the NFL at the time, just behind Miami I believe.
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:00 am to
Took him lying to the ncaa to manage it.

Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:02 am to
I think were saying the same thing just looking at it with different perspectives. In 2009, he was not a bad hire. Right now looking back, obviously he was a bad hire considering what he ended up doing. But that wasn't because he was a "bad coach" per se, just an a-hole.

My point is that had he remained fully devoted to the VOLS and hadn't bailed, he might have been able to rack up a pretty good record here.

This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:02 am to
Vols hated the hire at the time.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:04 am to
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Vols hated the hire at the time.


The opinions of a fanbase don't determine whether a hire was good or not, especially ours.

We complain about everything.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:10 am
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:18 am to
This is such a weird hill to die on.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:25 am to
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1869-2020
10) Tennessee - 0.671
12) Georgia - 0.656



When does uga pass vols in wins? 2022 is reasonable
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:33 am to
It’s not really a hill. Lane kiffin wasn’t a bad hire, until he was. Just depends on what perspective you look at it from. We obviously have different ones
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:35 am to
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How did Tennessee become such a dumpster fire after being a traditional power for decades?

It is all due to the curse of Fat Phil.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:36 am to
It is though. 4-15 record as a HC and left in the middle of the night before signing day.
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:43 am to
Tennessee took a high risk high reward gamble on a promising offensive mind.

It's the direct result of the Fulmer and Clawson marriage.

Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:45 am to
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4-15 record as a HC


As a HC in the NFL. Which, as Spurrier, Saban, and Meyer have shown, is a different animal altogether.

He was also at USC from 2001 from 2006 when they went 63-12 and won a few natties


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left in the middle of the night before signing day.


Which wasn't a consideration when he was hired
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:47 am to
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Fulmer owned....OWNED Bammer
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:48 am to
I agree about Kiffin being a good hire. He was a hotshot coordinator before his disastrous stint with the Raiders. Had Tennessee hired him before he took the Raiders job, it would've been viewed like hiring Sark, Richt, Smart, etc.
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