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re: How did Tennessee become such a dumpster fire after being a traditional power for decades?

Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:49 am to
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:49 am to
Looking back at that hiring search and the concerns for each candidate.

The major concern with Patterson was running a 4-2-5 base defense.

Whether or not Kelly could recruit nationally.

Lane's inexperience but promising to bring his Dad and Eddie O.


This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:50 am
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:51 am to
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Looking back at that hiring search and the concerns for each candidate.


Funny how the concerns have now changed to: "who the hell is going to want to come here now?"
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:52 am to
It's surreal
Posted by husslemane
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:57 am to
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I disagree. The state of Tennessee produces plenty of talent. The problem is the Vols don't sign them.

Tennessee signees of in-state five and four-star recruits since 2015 (per Rivals)
2022 - 1/15 (a lot can change between now and signing day, but 12 of these 15 players are committed to different programs)
2021 - 1/11
2020 - 7/12 (their best in-state signing class as of late)
2019 - 2/14
2018 - 5/14
2017 - 4/15
2016 - 2/10
2015 - 2/13
Total - 22/104 (21.1%)
quote:

I disagree. The state of Tennessee produces plenty of talent. The problem is the Vols don't sign them.

Tennessee signees of in-state five and four-star recruits since 2015 (per Rivals)
2022 - 1/15 (a lot can change between now and signing day, but 12 of these 15 players are committed to different programs)
2021 - 1/11
2020 - 7/12 (their best in-state signing class as of late)
2019 - 2/14
2018 - 5/14
2017 - 4/15
2016 - 2/10
2015 - 2/13
Total - 22/104 (21.1%)


This. TN isn't GA or LA talent-wise, but it's not terrible.

Ole Miss and Vandy (when Franklin was there) were cleaning up in Memphis, Notre Dame has recruited some middle Tennessee guys, and Clemson has gotten some guys from east Tennessee. Even Memphis has gotten some skill position guys who were good enough to play at Tennessee. Factor in that Bama and LSU have both gotten studs from Tennessee the last few years, and you have what you see listed above.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:38 pm to
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As a HC in the NFL. Which, as Spurrier, Saban, and Meyer have shown, is a different animal altogether.

That's strange, I don't remember Kiffin being a HC and winning a natty before he went to the NFL.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:01 pm to
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People in this thread be acting like UGA or UF or Bama suddenly just came onto the scene in the last 10 years. The only team that came onto the scene in that time is Clemson.


I disagree here as it relates to UGA. UT in the late 90's had (from the state of Ga) Jamal Lewis, Cosey Coleman, Deon Grant, Mercedes Hamilton, and more. They were feasting in Ga. Their simply not getting their pick of Ga talent any more.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:35 pm to
Yes. Full circle. Cause and effect. They got the great recruits in with promise of a mini kingdom with no accountability. That produced a lot of NFL players. The difference between them and Miami was that Miami really didn’t have to leave the state of Florida. When the snitch went in to save UTs arse, their compliance changed everything and nothing has been the same since.
Posted by UKat
Owensboro
Member since Aug 2010
812 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:47 pm to
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Every time I see Pruett I think of asparagus.

Everytime I see him, I think of a Conehead....if you're old enough to remember when SNL was truly funny 40 years ago
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 3:08 pm to
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Tennessee has suffered 2 decades of horrible football...still 2 spots above Georgia (as far back as this calculator goes). 1869-2020 10) Tennessee - 0.671 12) Georgia - 0.656


Let’s stick to what’s happened this century. After all, it’s 20 years old. Older than recruits.
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:28 pm to
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