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re: How are Nussmeier and Manning Heisman favorites?
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:46 am to ForeverGator
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:46 am to ForeverGator
Well, Manning has been a Heisman Favorite since high school so there’s that.
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:16 am to SemperFiDawg
Projected #1 selection in the draft as well.
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:30 am to ForeverGator
You would’ve said the same about Burrow in 2018
Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:16 am to captdalton
quote:And it was pointed out to you that he was a first year starter with no run game support
I just said that last season he was a middle of the pack quarterback who struggled with turnovers in 3 of LSU’s losses
quote:And you were corrected on this as well. A higher yards per attempt is almost always going to lead to a lower completion percentage and a higher int rate. Any halfway clued up person knows this
I gave you the only two in the past 15 years who meet that criteria. Both had better stats than Nuss
quote:Cherry picked
the numbers are the numbers
Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:25 am to somethingdifferent
QB rating is supposed to take all of that into account.
Care to guess where Nuss finished last season in QB rating? He finished 9th in the SEC, 41st in the nation.
These preseason quarterback threads where a fanbase proclaims their guy is the best never backfire. Just ask Tennessee, A&M, and Auburn fans among others.
Care to guess where Nuss finished last season in QB rating? He finished 9th in the SEC, 41st in the nation.
These preseason quarterback threads where a fanbase proclaims their guy is the best never backfire. Just ask Tennessee, A&M, and Auburn fans among others.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:46 am to captdalton
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These preseason quarterback threads where a fanbase proclaims their guy is the best never backfire.
Yeah, this is definitely a nUsS iS dA gOaT thread.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:46 am to captdalton
You're being disingenuous. On this list, only Dart and Milroe are clearly better. Beck and Ewers were ever so slightly better. Those 4 were not 1st year starters. 3 were on clearly better teams. Sellers had a laughable number of attempts and yards compared to Nuss.
Y/att %
Nuss 7.7 64
Beck 7.8 64.7
Ewers 7.8 65.8
Dart 10.8 69.3
Green 8.4 60.4
Thorne 8.6 62.8
Cook 7.9 62.6
Nico 7.8 63.8
Sellers 8.5 65.6 (2500 yards on 299 attempts)
Arnold 5.8 62.6
Milroe 8.9 64 4
Pavia 7.7 59.4
Lagway 10 59.9
Y/att %
Nuss 7.7 64
Beck 7.8 64.7
Ewers 7.8 65.8
Dart 10.8 69.3
Green 8.4 60.4
Thorne 8.6 62.8
Cook 7.9 62.6
Nico 7.8 63.8
Sellers 8.5 65.6 (2500 yards on 299 attempts)
Arnold 5.8 62.6
Milroe 8.9 64 4
Pavia 7.7 59.4
Lagway 10 59.9
Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:48 am to captdalton
quote:"supposed to"
QB rating is supposed to take all of that into account
Qb ratings formulas are highly debatable every season
Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:59 am to somethingdifferent
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QB rating is supposed to take all of that into account
*Bama wins a natty with Jake Coker's 147.0 QB rating*
Bama fans: We can win a natty with Jake Coker, we don't need an elite quarterback.
*Jalen Milroe has a 148.8 QB rating*
Bama fans: mUh wOrSt qUaRtErBaCk oF mUh lIfe, aNyOne wIlL bE aN iMpRoVeMeNt hE's tHe oNlY rEaSoN wE lOsT fOuR gAmEs
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:09 am to SidewalkTiger
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Yeah, this is definitely a nUsS iS dA gOaT thread.
The title of the thread is about Nuss being a Heisman favorite. It is right there in the title. So yeah, this is a thread about how great Nuss is.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:09 am to ForeverGator
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Neither one has accomplished..... anything.
who do you think should be the favorite?
I get Arch being a head scratcher because there isn’t much tape there
but Nuss has a good first year as a starter and is coming back with a lot of talent around him.
he makes a reasonable step forward and he will have elite numbers in the best conference in football.
Nuss was 5th in Passing Yards Per Game and 10th in Tds last year.
If you look at returning that’s 1st and 3rd.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 11:12 am
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:12 am to somethingdifferent
If Nuss was so good last season, why didn’t he jump into the draft? It was a historically soft QB draft class. Why didn’t Nuss take advantage of that and become a multi-millionaire overnight?
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:15 am to captdalton
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The title of the thread is about Nuss being a Heisman favorite. It is right there in the title. So yeah, this is a thread about how great Nuss is.
What
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Dumbass
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:24 am to SidewalkTiger
Your lack of comprehension is truly astounding considering how much effort you put into it.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:28 am to captdalton
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Your lack of comprehension is truly astounding considering how much effort you put into it.
Seems like projections considering you read the OP and surmised this was a thread talking about how great Nuss is.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:39 am to wadewilson
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And 4k yards through the air.
He was better in 2024 than Burrow was in 2018, or Daniels in 2022.
I'm not sure I agree.
Burrow played more ranked teams in 2018 and finished with a better passer rating against ranked teams. He had worse numbers mostly because he threw the ball 150 fewer times.
Daniels had a better passer rating overall, played more ranked teams, as well as rushing for 885 yards to Nuss' negative 35 yards. Claiming Nuss was better than Daniels in 2022 isn't even a matter of opinion like Burrow; it's just 100% incorrect.
Not to mention that Nuss had 219 attempts prior to his first year as a starter; Burrow had 39.
Nuss' biggest issues are the following:
1. In the second half of games, when he no longer had scripted plays, he had 10 TDs to 10 INTs (compared to 18 TD and 2 INT in the first half of games).
2. Against conference opponents his rating was 127.66 and his rating against ranked opponents was 116.64. He was much more pedestrian against difficult competition.
3. Nuss is not nearly as mobile as Daniels (not even on the same planet), but even Burrow had 399 yards rushing in 2018 and 368 in 2019; Nuss' only year with positive rushing yards was 2023 with 1 (yes, just 1). All other years were double digit negative yards.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:48 am to SidewalkTiger
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Seems like projections considering you read the OP and surmised this was a thread talking about how great Nuss is.
I read the posts to determine this is a “how great Nuss is” thread. Most LSU fans in this thread are arguing how great Nuss was last season and will be this season. Maybe even historically great.
This was my favorite so far. Insinuating that Nuss will be better than both Burrow and Daniels.
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And 4k yards through the air. He was better in 2024 than Burrow was in 2018, or Daniels in 2022.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:54 am to captdalton
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I read the posts to determine this is a “how great Nuss is” thread.
Weird, because you just said:
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The title of the thread is about Nuss being a Heisman favorite. It is right there in the title. So yeah, this is a thread about how great Nuss is.
It appears as though we've reached the point where you have realized your mistake and you are now frantically trying to deflect.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:54 am to ForeverGator
I seem to remember a man by the name of Joe Burrow that lost to Florida in 2018 and had just ok stats through that season then proceeded to have the greatest regular season of any college QB in history in 2019.
Same thing with another QB by the name of Jayden Daniels. Was just ok to pretty good in 2022 and then gave everyone nightmares in 2023 on his way to winning the Heisman.
So just because Nuss lost to Florida last year doesn’t mean he can’t flip the switch and become one of the best QBs in the country this year. I mean Nuss is the returning leader in passing yds in the country this year.
Same thing with another QB by the name of Jayden Daniels. Was just ok to pretty good in 2022 and then gave everyone nightmares in 2023 on his way to winning the Heisman.
So just because Nuss lost to Florida last year doesn’t mean he can’t flip the switch and become one of the best QBs in the country this year. I mean Nuss is the returning leader in passing yds in the country this year.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 12:46 pm to SidewalkTiger
I feel such pity for you. The inability to communicate normally with others must be so frustrating.
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