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re: Homer musing of the day: Mac Jones will prove to be the best quarterback in this draft

Posted on 2/12/21 at 2:04 am to
Posted by hiremikeleach
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 2:04 am to
Trey lance has offers from Cornell and brown in high school so prob not
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 5:50 am to
You're caught up on stats too much, baw. And not enough on actual tape study and knowledge of the game.

Tim Couch had all the stats in the world, also. And we know how his career panned out.

It goes deeper than just stats.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 6:30 am to
I can see the brady comparisons and im no bama fan. If mac goes to a team that can protect him he will be really good. Hes got the arm and the football iq.
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 6:36 am to
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Mac exhibits a lot of Bradyesque qualities..


Dude, he’s been surround by the greatest accumulation of talent around.
Brady has had a few journeyman wrs and occasionally he’ll get a Gronk or a Moss.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:13 am to
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Jones never trailed in a game.




Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:06 am to
Jones is better than Lawrence. I hope Mac finds a great landing place and doesn't become a Jet.
Posted by AllInAllTheTime
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:19 am to
Supporting cast matters and Mack had the best talent in the country. Put Mack behind Clemson’s sorry offensive line and how does he perform?
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:28 am to
It does matter ..and Mac Jones was the most efficient and accurate passer, in his one season as a starting quarterback, in the history of NCAA football

pass efficiency leaders in NCAA since 1956
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 9:32 am
Posted by AllInAllTheTime
Member since Apr 2019
336 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 11:06 am to
Mack can’t hold Trevors jock strap and that’s fact! SMH arm chair coaches!
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 11:25 am to
I think the kid is incredibly football smart. But the BYU QB is probably the best of the bunch this year
Posted by Rogelio
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 12:11 pm to
Who is better? I'm not saying there is or not, but give us someone to evaluate head to head over Mac. I think we'll see they're at the least very close. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that any other QB in this draft class is better than him.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 12:22 pm to
a CBS article had a pretty detailed argument as to why he is worth a 2nd day pick.

Mac Jones lacks in key areas as a prospect

Some comments:

quote:

Of Jones' 424 attempts this season, 145 of them were thrown to pass-catchers at or behind the line of scrimmage, good for a rate of 34.1%. That's high. Really high.

It was impossible not to marvel at the skill-position talent at Alabama this season -- and really over the past five years or so -- skill-position talent that routinely took a two-yard drag route and morphed it into a 50-yard touchdown or blew past man coverage down the sideline for field-flipping gain.Of Jones' 4,500 passing yards, more than half (53.5%) was via yards after the catch.

In 2020, only 11.3% of Jones pass attempts were made out of the pocket -- again, scheme -- but that low figure does hint at his lack of playmaking ability, a skill becoming increasingly important to the modern-day quarterback.
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 12:33 pm to
Interesting that you ignore that he was the best deep ball passer in this class.. completing nearly 70% of attempts longer than 20 yds and having the highest touchdown percentage of deep balls thrown at 30%
Posted by AllInAllTheTime
Member since Apr 2019
336 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 12:40 pm to
With Heisman caliber receivers. Cant ignore that either!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64500 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 12:42 pm to
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Well, his game is similar to Brady’s and he’s way better in college than Brady ever was. You can’t compare NFL Brady right now to college Mac Jones. That’s not fair. Nobody’s saying Mac is going to win seven Super Bowls but the comparison to their college games is not unfounded. Watch Brady’s Michigan highlights and Mac’s. They’re nearly identical. Brady even wore No. 10, hehe.



He's as comparable to college Ryan Mallett as he is to college Tom Brady. It's funny, you saw LSU fans on here try to compare Joe Burrow to all-time great QBs and they were laughed off the board by everyone on here. So I'll respond, in kind, to this. It's utterly ridiculous to compare a draft prospect to the golden standard and GOAT QB in the NFL before he's taken a single snap in the NFL. Brady was a 6th round draft pick. There's a lot of people who can be compared to how Brady was scouted coming out of Michigan, but clearly all the scouts were wrong about his potential. They have similar measurements, can't move around much, have good arms, and were efficient. That describes a lot of QBs entering the draft every year. It's always difficult to evaluate a QB at a school like Alabama with the talent massive disparity they have over almost everyone they play. It makes everyone's job easier. AJ McCarron would have put up huge numbers in the wide open offense Alabama runs now too. He was incredibly efficient and put up big numbers, at the time, while at Alabama. Yet he's had 5 starts in 7 years in the NFL.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64500 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 12:52 pm to
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Watson is head and shoulders better than Lawrence coming out of college.


I think Lawrence has bust written all over him, especially if he goes #1 to the Jags. He has all the tools in the world, but when that dude doesn't have a clean pocket and wide open receivers, he struggles a lot. His performances in the CFPs the past two years have been less than ideal, and he has far too many random games every season where he's not very good, at least to the level of being labeled as a shoe-in #1 overall, generational player since his freshman season.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16146 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 1:31 pm to
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I think Lawrence has bust written all over him, especially if he goes #1 to the Jags. He has all the tools in the world, but when that dude doesn't have a clean pocket and wide open receivers, he struggles a lot. His performances in the CFPs the past two years have been less than ideal, and he has far too many random games every season where he's not very good, at least to the level of being labeled as a shoe-in #1 overall, generational player since his freshman season.


This all day. He may end up being a good NFL QB, but he has some serious work to do.

The "generational talent" label is a joke. He's not even the best player at his position at his own school in the last five years.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34437 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:25 pm to
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I think Lawrence has bust written all over him,

Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1337 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:34 pm to
Bama was nice in only putting up 55.
Could worse in 2021!
Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1337 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:35 pm to
He’s Jeff George.
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