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re: Historically who is the worst team in the SEC
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:12 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:12 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
State’s football history prior to the late 2000’s is really bad. Their recent stretch of consistency is their best period of football in school history
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:24 pm to Mithridates6
Vandy was once a proud and feared program. Winning at a high % long before most of tRANT'S time.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:37 pm to RebelTheBear
Sherrill had a pretty good run until 2001. Then the bottom just fell out. Croom arguably left them in better shape, which is sad to say the least lol
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:46 pm to Hback
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How is Vandy so close to .500??quote:
Includes the McGugin, pre-SEC years.
If you're going to include the pre-SEC years, you have include Vandy's 13 conference championships.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:47 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
Records since 1992 expansion? Anyone have that data?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:48 pm to jatebe
I never realized Vandy has 13/14 Conference championships in football.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:56 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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Very suprised Miss State is that close to Vandy in terms of record
Except for a stretch in the 70s and early 80s, Mississippi State didn't give a shite about football. AS a fan, it was infuriating. Beginning in 1991 with the hiring of Jackie Sherrill, State's commitment to winning changed.
Over the last 30 years or so, with one notable exception (the Croom Error), Mississippi State has been mostly competitive and respectable. Prior to that, not so much.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:03 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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Gatorbait2008 Very suprised Miss State is that close to Vandy in terms of record
Until Jackie Sherrill came in 1991 state was historically terrible. He and Mullen were by the best coaches they ever had.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:14 pm to Drewbie
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We're not your rival.
You are our rival. We love the hogs
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:38 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
Mississippi State and it is not even close
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:41 pm to mizslu314
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vandy never won a division title, so really even more of a gap.
But Vandy has won Nattys in Baseball this century. Some SEC schools haven’t won a Natty in a major sport since before WWII
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:47 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
As folks have said... what is the criteria?
Over the last 8 years? Yeah, sure. We are the worst. Most folks on here have the attention span of a stoned gold fish so that is what they will think of.
When you judge level of talent in the home state vs results achieved... I hate to say it but it is Georgia. Yes, yes, I know, you hate the Dawgs!
No, I don't. Texas A&M is the second, or sometimes third team in their state. We can understand why they haven't reaped the full benefit of the talent in Texas. Particularly since they really only went mainstream back in the 70s.
Georgia Tech fell off the face of of the planet by the 90s. Georgia is far and away the dominant power in a recruiting area where you can throw a football out of your office window and hit a 4 star talent. We should be cussing out Georgia for being the 800 pound gorilla in the conference and yet they aren't.
I don't say this to knock Georgia and its fans. They tend to be great people from my experience. As a program they haven't reached the levels they should have.
Over the last 8 years? Yeah, sure. We are the worst. Most folks on here have the attention span of a stoned gold fish so that is what they will think of.
When you judge level of talent in the home state vs results achieved... I hate to say it but it is Georgia. Yes, yes, I know, you hate the Dawgs!
No, I don't. Texas A&M is the second, or sometimes third team in their state. We can understand why they haven't reaped the full benefit of the talent in Texas. Particularly since they really only went mainstream back in the 70s.
Georgia Tech fell off the face of of the planet by the 90s. Georgia is far and away the dominant power in a recruiting area where you can throw a football out of your office window and hit a 4 star talent. We should be cussing out Georgia for being the 800 pound gorilla in the conference and yet they aren't.
I don't say this to knock Georgia and its fans. They tend to be great people from my experience. As a program they haven't reached the levels they should have.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:18 pm to Poker Dough
State’s on the field record is actually 585-568-41.
The ridiculous forfeits from 1975-1977 skew the record.
But other than the late 30’s-late 40’s, State was not very good except sporadically until 1991 when we hired Coach Sherrill. The mid 2000’s were some lean years but we are not anybody’s doormat or homecoming opponent anymore.
The ridiculous forfeits from 1975-1977 skew the record.
But other than the late 30’s-late 40’s, State was not very good except sporadically until 1991 when we hired Coach Sherrill. The mid 2000’s were some lean years but we are not anybody’s doormat or homecoming opponent anymore.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:37 pm to lewis and herschel
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Vanderbilt doesn't even try so I would say MSU.
I might agree but we didn't try for long expanses of time either. In fact, we didn't care about football until we hired Jackie Sherrill in 1991. If we had consecutive good seasons before that time period it was highly unusual, e.g. Emory Bellard era.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:44 pm to Reservoir dawg
Whatever happened to Sherrill after 2000? It was bizarre to see the bottom drop out like that after a pretty consistent stretch
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:44 pm to Godawgs4
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But other than the late 30’s-late 40’s,
Yep, our most successful coach in history, Allyn McKeen. He went 65-19 at State.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:57 pm to Mithridates6
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Whatever happened to Sherrill after 2000? It was bizarre to see the bottom drop out like that after a pretty consistent stretch
It all started with 9/11. The weekend before September 11, 2001 we had beaten Memphis and were ranked around #16. The first football game after 9/11 was MSU hosting South Carolina. We were supposed to win big, but lost 16-13 I believe. After that we were a lost team, then Sherril lost the team and we kept him one year too long.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:42 pm to Mithridates6
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Croom arguably left them in better shape, which is sad to say the least lol
Croom was a good coach. He left Mullen the foundation he needed to get his career off the ground.
Croom’s downfall was the era of MSU football he coached in. Recruiting cleanly was damn near impossible, and shelling out for smart coordinators capable of calling plays was not a thing.
In the modern era of SEC football, I think he’d cause problems. Real leader-of-men type guy like Ed O. Played for Bear Bryant, so his connection to southeastern CFB is without competition.
Part of me wonders how we’d have fared not parting ways with him. Obviously Mullen gave us 2014, but leaving us with Moorehead set us so far back.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:48 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
Moo State- year in, year out. Vandy at one time played some pretty good football. But Moo State.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:53 pm to 4Ghost
Mississippi State would beat FSU if they played at anytime in the next 5 years (or even the previous few years).
Hate on out past all you want, our future is much brighter. FSU has no future. Arkansas has a brighter future than FSU.
Hate on out past all you want, our future is much brighter. FSU has no future. Arkansas has a brighter future than FSU.
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