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re: Heisman talk - Fournette, Henry, Cook
Posted on 12/2/15 at 8:59 am to TheRaid
Posted on 12/2/15 at 8:59 am to TheRaid
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Let's not forget that last week Cook was bottled-up until the 7:56 mark left in the game in the only game Cook played a top defense.
Cook balled in the 3rd quarter. And Cook also balled in the 4th. I'm sorry he didn't impress versus arguably the best defense in CFB in the first half with a shitty OL and a bad QB.
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Cook should have been out of the game but Jimbo wanted to pad his stats for the Heisman run
Who got 50 carries against that studly Auburn team? You shouldn't talk about padding stats.
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Henry faced good defenses most weeks of the season and still was the MVP on his #2 team.
Cook faced stronger defenses from P5 schools.
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Without Henry, Alabama's Coker carries all the pressure and doesn't turn into the game manager he has become. Alabama is all about Defense and Henry. FSU is a product of their ACC creampuff schedule and didn't even have to play the best D in their own conference.
And you went full retard
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:00 am to Nissanmaxima
quote:Because we weren't trying to run out the clock in the first half?
Why didn't they give him the ball 14 straight times in the first half
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:00 am to GIbson05
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Henry is winning it this year and LF7 isn't even going to NYC. The End. Deal with it.
So you have a crystal ball? Are you on the Heisman board? Yeah that is what I thought!
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:01 am to Nissanmaxima
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So you have a crystal ball? Are you on the Heisman board? Yeah that is what I thought!
I mean, you guys can talk yourselves into it ala Brandon Harris will march into Tuscaloosa and beat Alabama if you want, but it isn't happening. Better to accept it now.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:04 am to TheOcean
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Who got 50 carries against that studly Auburn team? You shouldn't talk about padding stats.
Is it padding the stats when the game is still close?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:05 am to Nissanmaxima
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You ever heard a saying that the defense was gased and had no legs left?
Actually I remember hearing Danielson saying the King was gassed, but he proceeded to carry the load and win the game. It's just what heisman players do. They fight through the pain to carry their team.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:09 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Fournette probably set the NCAA record for largest disparity between performances vs non-bowl teams and performances vs bowl teams.
Leonard Fournette, the Mike Hessman of college football.
Fournette has had one bad game all season. One. And unfortunately, it came in the biggest game of the year when the entire LSU team played like absolute dogshit.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:11 am to lsufball19
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Fournette has had one bad game all season
19/31/1 TD vs Alabama
19/91/1 TD vs Arkansas
25/108/0 TD vs Ole Miss
Those aren't "bad games", but they were pedestrian games in the 2nd and 3rd biggest games on LSU's season.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:12 am to Nissanmaxima
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Henry would be an after thought, fact!
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:13 am to lsufball19
The best players step up in big games. LF7 shite the bed against Alabama and Arkansas and was only ok against Ole Miss. All 3 games you loss.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:13 am to GetmorewithLes
I would rank them thusly:
Derrick Henry
Christian McCaffrey
DeShaun Watson
Baker Mayfield
Leonard Fournette
Paxton Lynch
Dalvin Cook
Ezekial Elliot
Greg Ward Jr.
Keenan Reynolds
Trevone Boykin and Nick Chubb had they stayed healthy
Derrick Henry
Christian McCaffrey
DeShaun Watson
Baker Mayfield
Leonard Fournette
Paxton Lynch
Dalvin Cook
Ezekial Elliot
Greg Ward Jr.
Keenan Reynolds
Trevone Boykin and Nick Chubb had they stayed healthy
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:15 am to yellowhammer2098
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Fournette and Henry are both incredible running backs. I think Henry will win it honestly. However, if Fournette were the running back on this Alabama team and Henry were on LSU, I think Fournette would win it by a mile.
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yellowhammer2098
You sir are a smart man
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:16 am to SummerOfGeorge
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25/108/0 TD vs Ole Miss
he also had 72 yards receiving in that game. Hard to call 180 total yards a pedestrian game, even for Fournette
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Those aren't "bad games", but they were pedestrian games in the 2nd and 3rd biggest games on LSU's season.
Arkansas wasn't the 3rd biggest game of LSU's season. LSU just happened to lose the game. I'd put both Florida and Mississippi State above Arkansas, and he showed out in both of those games. And fwiw, Derrick Henry had 98 yards on 27 carries against Arkansas. They're not an easy team to run on.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:16 am to GetmorewithLes
Cook didn't do shite in the UF game for 3 and a half quarters. He got his 2 touchdowns and 112 of his 183 yards in the second half of the 4th quarter after our defense said frick it.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:17 am to SummerOfGeorge
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19/91/1 TD vs Arkansas
25/108/0 TD vs Ole Miss
Henry had a few pedestrian games himself. I love how some Bama fans acting like he didn't.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:18 am to GIbson05
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The best players step up in big games. LF7 shite the bed against Alabama and Arkansas and was only ok against Ole Miss. All 3 games you loss.
Fournette had a better game against Arkansas than Henry did. You guys really need to stop using that game as an indictment of him.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:18 am to lsufball19
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Arkansas wasn't the 3rd biggest game of LSU's season. LSU just happened to lose the game. I'd put both Florida and Mississippi State above Arkansas, and he showed out in both of those games. And fwiw, Derrick Henry had 98 yards on 27 carries against Arkansas. They're not an easy team to run on.
In the arc of the season it most certainly was, at worst, the 3rd biggest game of the season.
Again, the argument is not that LF had bad games or isn't a good player. He is a great player who had a great season. I just don't think the details of it quite equate to winning a Heisman Trophy. Maybe I'm an irrational bammer, but I don't think that is a wild hot take.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:20 am to RB10
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Henry had a few pedestrian games himself. I love how some Bama fans acting like he didn't.
Henry had one pedestrian game, Arkansas.
The only other game he averaged less than 5 ypc was ULM in which he had 13 carries up the middle and we attempted to work on the passing game (poorly, I might add).
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:21 am to SummerOfGeorge
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In the arc of the season it most certainly was, at worst, the 3rd biggest game of the season.
No, it wasn't.
MSU
AU
Bama
OM
Were all "bigger" games when they were played.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
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19/91/1 TD vs Arkansas
Henry against Arkansas
27/95/1 TD
Please stop!! Wait receiving yards count as stats for a RB I thought it was just rushing yards
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