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re: Heisman talk - Fournette, Henry, Cook

Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:32 pm to
Booger won't win it next year because his vision isn't good enough.
Posted by Bengals18
Breaux Bridge Louisiana
Member since Dec 2015
243 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:22 pm to
Amen
Posted by PDTigerfan
Hartsville, SC
Member since Dec 2012
67 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:02 pm to
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Even with the extra game Mayfield's numbers are better against better competition. He won't win because of the lack of exposure this weekend, but Watson won't win even with it.

Also, Watson's numbers just don't measure up, as far as QBs go, the last 5 winners.

Newton - 3,998 yards with 48 TDs
Griffin - 4,642 yards with 45 TDs
Manziel - 4,600 yards with 43 TDs
Winston - 4,013 yards with 42 TDs
Mariota - 4,452 yards with 52 TDs

Watson - 3,979 with 36 TDs (One more game to play)




You realize some of the stats you are showing were for 14 or 15 games right? Watson may be a little off pace for a typical Heisman winner QB but hes not that far off. His numbers are very close to Mariota and Winston through 12 games.

Watson 3323 yards passing with 27 TDs and 756 rushing with 9 TDs

After 12 games

Mariota 3470 yards passing with 36 TDs and 636 rushing with 11 TDs
Winston 3490 yards passing with 35 TDs and 220 rushing with 2 TDs
Manziel 3419 yards passing with 24 TDs and 1123 rushing and 19 TDs



Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43809 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

You realize some of the stats you are showing were for 14 or 15 games right? Watson may be a little off pace for a typical Heisman winner QB but hes not that far off.


Every stat I posted was before any bowl or playoff games, i.e 13 games.

Nice try.


quote:

His numbers are very close to Mariota and Winston through 12 games.


Mariota had 10 more touchdowns through 12 games. I will admit he is somewhat similar to Winston, but Winston had almost no real competition in 2013. Watson has several players who've been more impressive.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 7:36 pm
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:34 pm to
He's way behind.
Posted by PDTigerfan
Hartsville, SC
Member since Dec 2012
67 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 8:21 pm to
Tell me something. What makes Henry's numbers so impressive to you guys? Since 2011 there have been 7 players rush for 1900 or more yards. What makes his 1750 so special where the rest of those players failed to win the Heisman.

Melvin Gordon had almost 2400 last year and still lost to a QB. Andre Williams had 2102 and finished fourth. Both had an equal or higher yards per carry to Henry. Gordon had 7.5 ypc.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73474 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:40 pm to
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You should probably start preparing your moral victory posts for when Ben Simmons doesn't make the tournament and gets drafted #1 overall


thefloydian and blackpornmartyr, complete fricking idiots.

LSU: B. Simmons 43 Pts, 14 Reb, 7 Ast, 5 Stl, 3 Blk

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65020 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:43 pm to
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What makes his 1750 so special where the rest of those players failed to win the Heisman.


Bo Jackson won the Heisman in 1985 with fewer yards and touchdowns than Henry has now. Not every single year is like the other.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 9:45 pm to
Because no player in SEC History has ever ran for more yards with fewer carries.

Only Hershel Walker and Bo Jackson had 4 200 yd games in a season, until Henry had 4 in SEC play.

Finally, if the mighty Clemson Tigers get to play Alabama, they'll find out what's so "impressive " about King Henry
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15777 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:14 pm to
If Henry gets 100+ and 2 TDs this week, he wins the Heisman by a wide margin.

Watson, McCaffery, and Fournette are invited to NYC along with the Navy QB.
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