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re: Heisman talk - Fournette, Henry, Cook
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:37 am to Knight of Old
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:37 am to Knight of Old
So Bama fans should want LF7 to win it because we already have so much and LSU has so little?
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:39 am to iglass
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Cook's carries come against very weak competition.
Cook has faced, on average, better run defenses than Henry, Elliott, and Fournette.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:43 am to SabiDojo
Runs of 20 yards or more:
Fournette: 15
Henry: 15
Elliott: 10
Cook: 22
Fournette: 15
Henry: 15
Elliott: 10
Cook: 22
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:48 am to GetmorewithLes
I honestly think they'll pull some shite out of their arse and give it to the QB from Clemson provided he don't shite the bed in the ACC CG. IMO Henry should win it.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:55 am to GetmorewithLes
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Cook leads Heisman contenders in YPC
Also plays in a very weak conference, making it hard to tell just how good he really is. Florida was doing pretty well against him until their defense just couldn't do all the work on their own anymore. If I'm counting correctly, he had roughly 30 yards in the first half. Quick estimate is that at least half of his 183 yards and both touchdowns came in the 4th quarter.
Nothing to specifically take away from him, as Florida is a seriously stout defense. Just not sure his YPC would nearly be as high in the SEC.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:57 am to skrayper
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Also plays in a very weak conference, making it hard to tell just how good he really is. Florida was doing pretty well against him until their defense just couldn't do all the work on their own anymore. If I'm counting correctly, he had roughly 30 yards in the first half. Quick estimate is that at least half of his 183 yards and both touchdowns came in the 4th quarter.
How can you knock Cook for this and in the same breath give Henry credit for getting a metric ton of carries in the second half of games? They both wear defenses down.
Cook even said he knew he had them when he saw their hands on their hips. Cook is such a high caliber athlete that he can keep going.
Oh, and again, Cook has faced, on average, better run defenses than Fournette, Henry, and Elliott.
You really think Cook would have trouble against A&M, Auburn, LSU, and Arkansas?
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:58 am to SabiDojo
Did Cook face, on average, better run defenses than Henry, Fournette, and Elliot?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:00 am to Bham Bammer
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Did Cook face, on average, better run defenses than Henry, Fournette, and Elliot?
Yes, better run defenses.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:03 am to GetmorewithLes
LF won't be in NYC. It will be Henry, McCaffrey, Mayfield, and Watson. Henry will win unless he does zero against Florida. He'll probably get his 150, though. LF will be a favorite next year.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:06 am to GetmorewithLes
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Only thing Henry led in was total carries and TD's (by a couple). Essentially he was a big strong mule.
Except your theory doesnt hold up against comparable opponents...
Fournette
745 SEC west yards
149 per game
123 attempts
6.05 ypc
8tds
Henry
933 SEC west yards
186.6 a game
150 attempts
6.22 ypc
7tds
Fouryardsnet padded his stats when L5U was playing cupcakes.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:24 am to skrayper
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Also plays in a very weak conference, making it hard to tell just how good he really is
if we're being completely honest, the SEC isn't exactly strong this season. Fournette has had two sub 100 yard games all season, yet he apparently only played well against bad defenses. By that notion, 6 of the 8 other SEC games he played in were against bad teams.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:27 am to GetmorewithLes
McCaffrey
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:27 am to GetmorewithLes
The Heisman is a QB or overrated Bama RB trophy now.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:29 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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Fournette
745 SEC west yards
149 per game
123 attempts
6.05 ypc
8tds
Henry
933 SEC west yards
186.6 a game
150 attempts
6.22 ypc
7tds
Fouryardsnet padded his stats when L5U was playing cupcakes.
at 6.05 ypc against SEC West teams, if you give him 27 more attempts to match henry's carry totals, he'd have 908 yards. So a difference of 25 rushing yards and .15 ypc. Failing to see what you're trying to say here. Quite simply, Fournette's team went downhill in November, and Alabama's did the opposite.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:30 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:30 am to GetmorewithLes
Fournette has as much of a chance of winning the Heisman as I do.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:30 am to LSU Patrick
That is some hurt butt right therePosted on 12/2/15 at 11:31 am to MontyFranklyn
yeah. I don't understand why Bama fans get all butt hurt about the truth.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:33 am to LSU Patrick
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yeah. I don't understand why Bama fans get all butt hurt about the truth.
ZING!
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:35 am to LSU Patrick
But really, I don't know why LSU fans are bothering with football at this point. You should probably start preparing your moral victory posts for when Ben Simmons doesn't make the tournament and gets drafted #1 overall.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:35 am to thefloydian
See what I mean?
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