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re: Hate to say it, but I think this is Florida's year

Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Tennessee and Kentucky are more of a threat in the upcoming seasons.


100% facts.
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
3062 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
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I think Alabama will be good because they can just line up and run the ball with Harris if all else fails but I think no offseason hurts further defensive improvement.


Bama will be much more talented, experienced and much deeper on defense this year... Not saying they will be 2011 dominant but they will be much better... If they meet Clemson again it'll be a war...

Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:12 pm to
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It's gonna be us, Ohio State, or Bama in my opinion.


Not sure Ohio State will even play. I think Clemson has the inside track to make the playoffs. I think Bama will too and I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see another SEC team make it in
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:15 pm to
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It’s not crazy but it’s also not crazy to expect UGA to win again this year. Most of the defense is back and we had an average offense. Just need that again.


Replacing almost your entire offensive line (4 starters gone) with a new offensive line coach, both 1st and 2nd string RBs, having only a single Quarterback with live snaps on the team (Stetson, and he was a walkon initially) and of course: Changing your entire offensive scheme during a pandemic with limited contact and practices.

That is a lot harder than Dog fans want to admit this offseason.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52538 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:15 pm to
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Bama will be much more talented, experienced and much deeper on defense this year... Not saying they will be 2011 dominant but they will be much better


How are they any more talented or experienced than they were against Auburn?

Even Michigan was running all over you.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:16 pm to
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That is a lot harder than Dog fans want to admit this offseason.


They have the best roster with the most talent and potential.

As long as Kirby keeps recruiting like this, they'll be top 4 every year regardless of how much they lose.

UGA is like Bama now. That train isn't stopping.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:20 pm to
I agree. I just think it's pathetically sad that ANY thread about Florida gets hounded by Georgia fans. How you can not see that as insecurity is crazy. It's absolute insecurity, because Georgia fans are on their 40th anniversary of their last title team, and if UF tops you then the disappointment will overwhelm you.

I get it. I do. Just admit it. You really, really do not want UF to be back, which evidence points to us returning to form, and the thought of that scares Georgia fans.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Replacing almost your entire offensive line (4 starts gone)


Somehow, our RG is first team PFF preseason all SEC, our C is third team, and our LT is second team.

I mean.... we lost 4 starters, right?

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both 1st and 2nd string RBs

Losing Swift is huge. It is a question-mark on the team if we have anyone close to his production capability. Herrien was a DGD, but we have 4 guys as capable if not better potential. I can acknowledge the question-mark at RB because Swift/Chubb/Michel were that good and we dont know anything yet about how great we can be in 2020 at the position.
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having only a single Quarterback with live snaps on the team (Stetson, and he was a walkon initially) and of course: Changing your entire offensive scheme during a pandemic with limited contact and practices.

We have restocked the QB position. I'm not worried. As has been said, we were average as grits on offense last season. If the OL can run block better (we were less than average in run blocking 2019), then a lot of the pieces are in place for a good offense. And a good offense will be good enough to win the East. None of those lost spring reps will matter once we get to the SECCG in December anyway.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:27 pm to
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They have the best roster with the most talent and potential.

As long as Kirby keeps recruiting like this, they'll be top 4 every year regardless of how much they lose.

UGA is like Bama now. That train isn't stopping.


Muschamp literally took the keys from the best ranked class of all time and ran the car into the ditch. Playing musical chairs with your offensive coordinator isn't something that will foment continued success.

If talent were everything, they would be able to keep LSU within two possessions. They wouldn't lose to South Carolina's wildcat Quarterback at home (for about a half).

Similarly, you can see some serious problems in the QB room. Newman was supposed to be the second coming, but then they took yet another QB transfer. Limited snaps, limited practices and a changing system = disaster waiting to happen.

Worst of it all? Their hardest games are in the beginning of the season. Arkansas (god bless 'em) won't be a problem but Auburn, Tennessee, @Alabama and then Kentucky are all of their hardest games outside of Florida back to back.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:27 pm to
Yeah last year UGA dominated more than the score showed. But this time y'all will be running a new offense you didn't have enough time to fully install. Also you get Bama and Auburn from the West.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:30 pm to
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I just think it's pathetically sad that ANY thread about Florida gets hounded by Georgia fans


You know what? Repeating "only lost by 7" is going to get a response. And it should.

Florida fans no longer defend the comment. It is only repeated by LSU fans. Florida fans watched the game and know better.

And Florida fans dont repeat what a great offensive play caller that MuLLLen is. They know better. That only gets repeated by other fans.

I can give Florida credit when it is earned. But I can laugh at the I'll informed message board tropes, too.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52538 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:32 pm to
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You know what? Repeating "only lost by 7" is going to get a response. And it should.

Florida fans no longer defend the comment. It is only repeated by LSU fans. Florida fans watched the game and know better.

And Florida fans dont repeat what a great offensive play caller that MuLLLen is. They know better. That only gets repeated by other fans.

I can give Florida credit when it is earned. But I can laugh at the I'll informed message board tropes, too.


Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:34 pm to
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PFF


I think they ranked Trask and Franks about what, six spots apart? Even though Trask out threw Franks six out of the ten times he started the game, and both times he came in to relieve Franks. Had more touchdowns, less interceptions etc. etc.. Literally, Trask beat Franks in every single passing category available in both years starting.

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Losing Swift is huge. It is a question-mark on the team if we have anyone close to his production capability. Herrien was a DGD, but we have 4 guys as capable if not better potential. I can acknowledge the question-mark at RB because Swift/Chubb/Michel were that good and we dont know anything yet about how great we can be in 2020 at the position.


That is a huge problem for a team that is run heavy and is now switching to being...pass heavy? I'm not sure what the change is, but Dog fans seem to think it'll be a complete overhaul.

I have no idea if it will be, I think it'll probably be something in between. Trying to utilize the players Georgia has for the system the new OC wants to implement, but keeping some older parts of the machine.

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We have restocked the QB position.


You don't have a single Quarterback with live snaps and Michel + Chubb are not coming through the door to help prop up the next guy. The likely starter will have zero reps to start the season. His backup is coming off of knee surgery and has just been cleared to return to practice.

The guy behind him missed the entire last season.

The guy behind that final guy is a walkon.

That is not a great QB room.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:34 pm to
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They have the best roster with the most talent and potential.

As long as Kirby keeps recruiting like this, they'll be top 4 every year regardless of how much they lose.

UGA is like Bama now. That train isn't stopping.

Yeah this is why any criticism of Kirby is moot: when you recruit at that level and play elite defense you're always going to be in the hunt. No one in their right mind would turn that down just bc he came up short in his first four seasons as HC. I just wonder if they can go the distance with limited practiced and a new offense this season. The defense should be enough to carry them to 8 wins
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:35 pm to
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Muschamp literally took the keys from the best ranked class of all time and ran the car into the ditch


The great classes of 2018 and 2019 were freshmen and sophomores.

You are smart enough to know that upperclass leadership matters. UGA had it when several seniors returned in 2017 and we know where UGA ended up.

2020 is different from 2019 because we will have 22 of 26 starters as upperclassmen (counting Sam, Nickel, Dime, etc..).

Joe Burrow at 24 was much better than Joe Burrow at 23. Team maturity matters, and this is the best team of upperclassmen that Smart has ever had.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52538 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:38 pm to
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Joe Burrow at 24 was much better than Joe Burrow at 23. 


Sure, but it wasnt because he was 24 compared to 23.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46508 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:39 pm to
It’s tough to be a title contender when you lose your ENTIRE two deep from a whole position group before the season even starts.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:41 pm to
You honestly think leadership is the reason why you guys couldn't keep up with LSU the last two years?

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Joe Burrow


Is not on your team. A lot of people like to say: "Well, Burrow was a transfer and ",

Ya'll ain't got no Burrow. If you think you're going to replace Fromm with a better passer in one year, you're out of your mind. Even Burrow, as one of the best college QBs of all time struggled his first year.

Having a new QB, system, OL, RBs, OC, OLine Coach etc. etc. is extremely difficult to replace and implement. Burrow is a generational talent. Newman couldn't throw for 100 yards against fricking Syracuse.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:46 pm to
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quote:
PFF


I dont care if you laugh. The point isnt about PFF. The point is correcting you about the lost starters. We lost 2 great tackles. That would be much more accurate than saying we lost 4 starters. Because Ben Cleveland was a starter. Trey Hill was a starter. Jamaree Salyer played C, G, and T in meaningful reps because of injuries all last season. Hell, Shaffer was starting and doing great until his season ending knock injury.

You can comment to the lost starting tackles and have a very good point. Going much further than that is being disingenuous and fooling yourself.
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That is a huge problem for a team that is run heavy and is now switching to being...pass heavy? I'm not sure what the change is, but Dog fans seem to think it'll be a complete overhaul.

I have no idea if it will be, I think it'll probably be something in between. Trying to utilize the players Georgia has for the system the new OC wants to implement, but keeping some older parts of the machine.


We have the pieces to be different. James Cook would be a Monken type RB. Milton is a true freshman who might be.

I'm hesitant about RB because we have had three first round talents the past several years. I'm hopeful, but I know it isnt that easy to replace that level of player.

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You don't have a single Quarterback with live snaps


Newman has almost 2 years of starts.
Daniel has over 1 year of starts.
Hell... even Bennett has a season of starts.

I'm not ignoring your point. But those players have plenty of game reps.

It isnt as bad as you make it seem. Players deal with new OCs all of the time. Sometimes, it doesnt work out. Sometimes it does. Usually if it doesnt work out in college, the OC gets replaced (see Coley). UGA fans can be excited about Monken and the talent/experience at QB. We will have to wait to see during the season if the excitement is warranted.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17909 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:48 pm to
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Even Michigan was running all over you.

43 carries, 162 yards 3.8 ave 0 TDs. That is not shite through a tin horn.
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