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Has the HUNH/spread gone the way of fun & gun already?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:47 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:47 am
Last year people were stating that the game had passed the likes of Saban by. Today, I barely hear anything about the HUNH/spread offenses. Are they ineffective, teams have figured them out or do they just require a superior player or player combo to really succeed?
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:49 am to nc14
REC check slowed them down to the midgets speed
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:50 am to nc14
Not many teams in the SEC run the HU anymore. Bama still utilizes the jet sweep aspect of the spread, and multiple WRs, but the true spread never really took off in the SEC. TAMU failed with it. Seems the shotgun power run is the offense of choice, with hurry up at selective times.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 7:56 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:50 am to nc14
I think it can still be effective. You just have to have the right people in place. Most of the teams that have thrived off of this type of offense are down talent-wise, especially at the QB position.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:56 am to nc14
Tennessee's HUNH/power running spread gave Alabama's defense much more trouble than LSU's pro style offense with the best player in cfb. The misdirection with Dobbs plus the ability to get Hurd and Kamara in space kept Alabama on their heels more often than normal.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 7:57 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:57 am to nc14
Who is really running a pro-style offense in the SEC right now? Bama, LSU, UGA, Arkansas? UF too? Even those teams run some aspects of the HU/Spread.
And no you don't need superior athletes to be successful. I think those offenses developed to attempt to neutralize the talent gap. You do need good athletes, but they don't necessarily have to be prototypical.
And no you don't need superior athletes to be successful. I think those offenses developed to attempt to neutralize the talent gap. You do need good athletes, but they don't necessarily have to be prototypical.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 8:04 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:57 am to AUCE05
Agree. The Auburn version two years ago was almost unstoppable but required such a disciplined execution that it seemed to have too many opportunities for mistakes. I was impressed how well they ran it and how few mistakes were made.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:00 am to BugaPainTrain7
It definitely has contributed to a defensive evolution as well as substitution evolution. Bama had nineteen defenders on the field before one play Saturday night. 
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:00 am to DuncanIdaho
True, good post. 
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:04 am to DuncanIdaho
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Who is really running a pro-style offense in the SEC right now? Bama, LSU, UGA? UF too?
You forgot to mention the most obvious one: Arkansas. That's my favorite offense in the SEC. Absolutely perfect, but must have a great offensive line to execute it
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:06 am to MSU5
Correct. I remembered that and edited. So the SEC is close to 50/50?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:14 am to nc14
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Last year people were stating that the game had passed the likes of Saban by. Today, I barely hear anything about the HUNH/spread offenses. Are they ineffective, teams have figured them out or do they just require a superior player or player combo to really succeed?
All offenses and defenses require superior players... Alabama gets the best players every year. Trying to beat Alabama at their own game is foolish, LSU does it best and has lost 5 in a row. Ole Miss has beaten Bama two times in a row. The two years Auburn made the NC game it was not for having superior players.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:17 am to DuncanIdaho
HUNH and a spread aren't the same thing.
We haven't had a lot of true spread offenses in the SEC. Hal Mumme at KY was the most notable and Summelin at TAM to a degree. I don't know what you call Ole Miss, but its not really anything like Mike Leach's spread at wash St. Malzhan's scheme is the old Delaware "winged T" run at quick pace.
All teams now run some tempo HUNH to limit the situational substitutions.
We haven't had a lot of true spread offenses in the SEC. Hal Mumme at KY was the most notable and Summelin at TAM to a degree. I don't know what you call Ole Miss, but its not really anything like Mike Leach's spread at wash St. Malzhan's scheme is the old Delaware "winged T" run at quick pace.
All teams now run some tempo HUNH to limit the situational substitutions.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:19 am to nc14
Which coach said that all offenses will get caught up to given a little time?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:19 am to allin2010
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The two years Auburn made the NC game it was not for having superior players
Yes it was, at the key position(s).
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:20 am to coachcrisp
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Which coach said that all offenses will get caught up to given a little time?
Crisp?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:41 am to coachcrisp
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Which coach said that all offenses will get caught up to given a little time?
Dick Vermeil?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:53 am to nc14
The HUNH relies on getting defenses in a personnel disadvantage and then snapping the ball without giving them a chance to make substitutions.
People have started recruiting hybrid type front seven players that can better defend the perimeter. This has made the need for substitution less of an issue and has made the chief element of the HUNH less effective.
People have started recruiting hybrid type front seven players that can better defend the perimeter. This has made the need for substitution less of an issue and has made the chief element of the HUNH less effective.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:55 am to nc14
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Last year people were stating that the game had passed the likes of Saban by. Today, I barely hear anything about the HUNH/spread offenses. Are they ineffective, teams have figured them out or do they just require a superior player or player combo to really succeed?
Do you even watch football?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:55 am to nc14
Teams with less talant run the spread. Teams like Alabama, UGA, and LSU run a pro style.
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