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re: Has anyone stopped to think about the longterm consequences of this NFL player fiasco?
Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:34 am to CaliTiger83
Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:34 am to CaliTiger83
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I think what will happen on Thursday is the Judge will side with players, the SEC will say fine, we'll abide with letting them play, but you can't transfer to LSU..
Hmm, I don’t think the SEC is in the mood for just rolling over. If the hearing Thursday goes the wrong way, I think you’ll see at least an appeal. Perhaps a federal suit, the way the Big 12 did in the Sorsby mess.
In the meantime, I don’t think LSU would be foolish enough to play these two unless/until some higher court affirms an order allowing them to play. Even then, LSU might decide that it’s not worth it.
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Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:41 am to Hawaiian Punch
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And at this point, what would stop a six-year NFL vet who is getting cut, but more than enough tread on the tires, with 1 year of college eligibility left bc he declared and was drafted after his junior year, from coming back to college ball for like $4mm+ a year from Mark Cuban, etc.? This is a serious question, not too privy on “the rules” these days
Absolutely nothing, which is why I think most people are hoping the SEC is able to win in court and enforce conference rules. If the NCAA can't do anything, maybe the conferences can.
LSU has become the public face of this situation so it's easy to pick on them here, but 99% of average college football fans view NFL players returning to college as a bad thing, and no one actually thinks this is just a one year problem that will solve itself.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:43 am to Darth_Vader
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some player who washes out in NFL training camp next year
So you’re saying someone who is not good enough to make an NFL roster will return to college football to try and better himself?
And this is some advantage for the college team?
No one has cited any reason other than he signed his name on paper as a reason to not allow this.
College athletes in the big 3 sports are pro athletes in the SEC. The training and nutrition are probably superior in college.
Let 5 for 5 be the absolute and be done with it. No exceptions. The exceptions is what got the NCAA 300 lawsuits.
Tom Brady wants to QB Michigan one more year? Do it.
Make a compelling competitive advantage argument.
Right now I believe the 5 year clock starts the minute they enroll and step foot on campus. So they play their freshman year then quit school. Their eligibility is burning and in 5 years it’s over
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 6:47 am
Posted on 9/2/26 at 6:55 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:03 am to tigerspin
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We’re all just living in the long-term consequences of NCAA v Alston.
I am wondering if the "Protect College Sports Act" passes, which I believe would give the NCAA anit-trust protection, would it go back to no compensation for players to reinstate amatuerism?
I think that is the way to go.
This post was edited on 9/2/26 at 7:04 am
Posted on 9/2/26 at 7:14 am to bigDgator
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go back to no compensation
That's never going to happen.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:06 am to OleVaught14
This is how Wade expects to fill out his team. The precedent from the bought and paid for judge. It isn’t just about football, though that is at the front of the argument for now.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 8:57 am to Darth_Vader
This is a big picture discussion. To me, there are several issues...
1) Complete and total lack of governance by the entities that are supposed to control college football. It all started with a spineless and/or inept NCAA years ago, and because they are/were ineffective it has shifted to the conferences who have been bought and paid for by the entertainment and now gambling interests. So now no one entity is making the rules - and those that do set out rules that are vague and rely on our courts to sort it all out. They lack the cajones to actually be definitive and set clear rules.
2) We live in a litigous society - if you don't like somehting, sue. This amplifies issue #1 because there are so many loopholes.
3) Precedent is critical in litigation - especially true if it directly affects an individuals earning potential. No one wants to tell someone they have to accept less or can't have the same opportunity as someone who has gone before them. This makes it very, very difficult to walk back anything. The horse is out of the barn here.
4) The law does not require (or allow) applying common sense.
5) There is a lot of money to be made by the people who buck the system and win. And there are plenty of people willing ot push the envelope.
6) FFS our government is getting more and more involved.
In a very short span of time we have seen:
- Players go from being true amateurs to getting paid (some make more in college than they would or will in the NFL)
- Unrestricted player movement from "their" school to another (we have less restriction in CFB to leave a school than the NFL has to leave one employer for another)
- Rapidly disappearing eligibility restrictions (have gone from 4 to 5/6) - with no end in sight, which means fewer kids will have the opporutunity to play college football
Ultimately - this all points to CFB becoming a defacto / true minor league, with fluid movement of players back and forth. This is not a good outcome. When was the last time you were passionate about a UFL game or AAA or AA baseball game? How many of you follow one of those leagues season start to finish, know the standings, talk trash with opposing fans, can recall who won a game 6 years ago and even recall the weather conditions or who missed the extra point?
This is not an LSU issue or an issue with any of the other schools who have NFL players on their rosters. Sure - they may have coaches / administration who fall under number 5 above - but ultimately if they didn't push it, someone else would.
I'm not sure there is a way to stop this.
1) Complete and total lack of governance by the entities that are supposed to control college football. It all started with a spineless and/or inept NCAA years ago, and because they are/were ineffective it has shifted to the conferences who have been bought and paid for by the entertainment and now gambling interests. So now no one entity is making the rules - and those that do set out rules that are vague and rely on our courts to sort it all out. They lack the cajones to actually be definitive and set clear rules.
2) We live in a litigous society - if you don't like somehting, sue. This amplifies issue #1 because there are so many loopholes.
3) Precedent is critical in litigation - especially true if it directly affects an individuals earning potential. No one wants to tell someone they have to accept less or can't have the same opportunity as someone who has gone before them. This makes it very, very difficult to walk back anything. The horse is out of the barn here.
4) The law does not require (or allow) applying common sense.
5) There is a lot of money to be made by the people who buck the system and win. And there are plenty of people willing ot push the envelope.
6) FFS our government is getting more and more involved.
In a very short span of time we have seen:
- Players go from being true amateurs to getting paid (some make more in college than they would or will in the NFL)
- Unrestricted player movement from "their" school to another (we have less restriction in CFB to leave a school than the NFL has to leave one employer for another)
- Rapidly disappearing eligibility restrictions (have gone from 4 to 5/6) - with no end in sight, which means fewer kids will have the opporutunity to play college football
Ultimately - this all points to CFB becoming a defacto / true minor league, with fluid movement of players back and forth. This is not a good outcome. When was the last time you were passionate about a UFL game or AAA or AA baseball game? How many of you follow one of those leagues season start to finish, know the standings, talk trash with opposing fans, can recall who won a game 6 years ago and even recall the weather conditions or who missed the extra point?
This is not an LSU issue or an issue with any of the other schools who have NFL players on their rosters. Sure - they may have coaches / administration who fall under number 5 above - but ultimately if they didn't push it, someone else would.
I'm not sure there is a way to stop this.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:01 am to LOTOTiger
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LOTOTiger
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This is a big picture discussion. To me, there are several issues...
1) Complete and total lack of governance by the entities that are supposed to control college football. It all started with a spineless and/or inept NCAA years ago, and because they are/were ineffective it has shifted to the conferences who have been bought and paid for by the entertainment and now gambling interests. So now no one entity is making the rules - and those that do set out rules that are vague and rely on our courts to sort it all out. They lack the cajones to actually be definitive and set clear rules.
2) We live in a litigous society - if you don't like somehting, sue. This amplifies issue #1 because there are so many loopholes.
3) Precedent is critical in litigation - especially true if it directly affects an individuals earning potential. No one wants to tell someone they have to accept less or can't have the same opportunity as someone who has gone before them. This makes it very, very difficult to walk back anything. The horse is out of the barn here.
4) The law does not require (or allow) applying common sense.
5) There is a lot of money to be made by the people who buck the system and win. And there are plenty of people willing ot push the envelope.
6) FFS our government is getting more and more involved.
In a very short span of time we have seen:
- Players go from being true amateurs to getting paid (some make more in college than they would or will in the NFL)
- Unrestricted player movement from "their" school to another (we have less restriction in CFB to leave a school than the NFL has to leave one employer for another)
- Rapidly disappearing eligibility restrictions (have gone from 4 to 5/6) - with no end in sight, which means fewer kids will have the opporutunity to play college football
Ultimately - this all points to CFB becoming a defacto / true minor league, with fluid movement of players back and forth. This is not a good outcome. When was the last time you were passionate about a UFL game or AAA or AA baseball game? How many of you follow one of those leagues season start to finish, know the standings, talk trash with opposing fans, can recall who won a game 6 years ago and even recall the weather conditions or who missed the extra point?
This is not an LSU issue or an issue with any of the other schools who have NFL players on their rosters. Sure - they may have coaches / administration who fall under number 5 above - but ultimately if they didn't push it, someone else would.
I'm not sure there is a way to stop this.
Unequivocally accurate and absolutely the best post made about this entire situation I’ve seen so far.
Well done.
Please create a thread with this exact post so I can request a sticky.
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:03 am to Darth_Vader
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Supposedly this thing with allowing NFL washouts to return is a “one-time thing” affecting only the class of ‘22. But let’s not kid ourselves. If this stands, there is a 100% chance some player who washes out in NFL training camp next year will find some lawyer who will cite “precedent” in front of a judge that will be all to willing to grant a TRO to allow that player to return to college. Anyone who thinks it won’t happen is willfully blind.
But has anyone stopped to think about what that will mean for recruitment of both portal and high school prospects? I mean, who wants to risk committing to a school, going though both spring and summer workouts only to find out days before the season starts you’re being benched, or worse yet cut, in favor of some NFL washout?
Why would any sensible high school, or portal, player commit to such a program?
And why would any sensible program broadcast to all prospects that they’re more than willing to kick them to the curb at any moment for a guy who couldn’t hack it in the big show?
When you ask this board...you are basically talking to children. Children dont understand the concept of making decisions today that will affect the future. They just want their cake right now
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