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Gumps... Why is history decades old more important than history a year old?

Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:13 pm
You realize the players you are going up against, which are the most talented ever at OM, didnt play decades ago right? You realize Freeze wasnt our coach over the decades of history y'all like to quote either. If you want to talk about the past, why not discuss the past that is the most relevant, like a team made up of similar players with the same coaching staff?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55439 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:14 pm to
tRationalization
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:16 pm to
Because history matters. They are Alabama. You are ole Miss.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24461 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:16 pm to
Blue-blood thing. You wouldn't understand
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2617 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:17 pm to
You mean the 1 yr history of Bama being SEC Champs and Ole Miss not?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25092 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:19 pm to
Have you ever heard of recency bias? It is a bias introduced into the reasoning of fans of teams that historically suck because they think that the outlier of them accidentally butt fricking their way to a win once in a blue moon means they are actually good over time and a threat over time.

Or at least that's what the wikipedia page says it is.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:20 pm to
I just like that your "greatest victory ever!!!" melted and reformed as an Alabama SEC Championship

it just felt like tradition
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:21 pm to
in all seriousness I haven't seen Ole Miss go up against a team with a pulse yet so I have no idea what to expect of them

could be a team similar to last year, could be a team that we grind down

who knows
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24461 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:21 pm to
Ole Miss's biggest win ever? A game in early October
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52656 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:21 pm to
Bears...why are you guys making this board unBEARable with the lame-arse threads?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25092 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Bears...why are you guys making this board unBEARable with the lame-arse threads?


Enhance

quote:

why are you guys making this board unBEARable with the lame-arse threads?



ENHANCE

quote:

unBEARable


:rimshot:
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:24 pm to
You realize that if Howard comes down with the ball, you would have lost again last season, right? OM fans act like they blew Bama out and are playing at home again this year.

Pretty sure most Bama fans believe it will be a tough game.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

If you want to talk about the past, why not discuss the past that is the most relevant, like a team made up of similar players with the same coaching staff?


Ok. Saban and part of the coaching staff have been been at Bama since 07. Same caliber players year in and year out. 7-1 against OM.

So what would you like to discuss?
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Have you ever heard of recency bias? It is a bias introduced into the reasoning of fans of teams who historically suck because they think that the outlier of them accidentally butt fricking their way to a win once in a blue moon means they are actually good over time and a threat over time.

I would (biasedly) give that definition to our loss to Arkansas last year. We played without our best player, QB out, on the road, in the rain. Outside of this game being in TT, what makes last year's game an outlier? We beat you with our most talented team in a long time. If we were less talented this year, then I could see it. If we constantly lost to Bama with more talented teams than 2014 then I could see it. But if you are more talented than you have ever been and win in a normal fashion, thats not an outlier unless you can never match that level of talent again, and not only have we matched it, we have increased it.

I could see our previous history with Vandy being an example of recent bias. Franklin and Johnson beat OM 4 out of 6 years. A coaching change occurs and things are back to where they should be historically. I could see this argument for us if we lost Freeze or if Bama went from Shula to Saban, but not when the coaching staff's are the same as are most of the players.
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
349 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:30 pm to
Pay that no mind.

Next year, after having lost two in a row to Ole Miss, the same guys will break out the same old stats to justify why Bama will win.

Last year has almost nothing to do with this year.

Games played a decade ago won't factor into Saturday's result either.

Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Outside of this game being in TT, what makes last year's game an outlier?
It's an outlier because you haven't beaten Bama back-to-back in over 100 years. Win this year, and it won't be an outlier.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25092 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Games played a decade ago won't factor into Saturday's result either.



I have it on good authority that they actually will. That sucks for Ole Miss. :prayerssent:
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25092 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

It's an outlier because you haven't beaten Bama back-to-back in over 100 years. Win this year, and it won't be an outlier.


Actually, it still would be an outlier.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Ok. Saban and part of the coaching staff have been been at Bama since 07. Same caliber players year in and year out. 7-1 against OM.

So what would you like to discuss?

What does pre Freeze have to do with this? Is Bama the same program now as it was under Shula? The only history that is relevant is the past three years because thats when the coaching staffs are the same. Over that three year span, our talent has increased, while Bama's has stayed the same. We beat you with Freeze's most talented team last year. This year's is now his most talented. Unless you are saying this is Saban's most talented team then the history argument is moot.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:32 pm to
Trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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