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re: Greatest basketball player from each SEC school....

Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:05 pm to
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I'll try to remember this when you fools start talking about Joe vs. Cam vs. whoever in the NFL every fall.

And I'll certainly remember it when someone tries to claim their RB was better than Herschel.

Posted by AUFANATL
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:07 pm to

Ole Miss was Johnny Neumann. People forget that when Pistol Pete was averaging 44 points a game at LSU there was another flashy white boy at Ole Miss who averaged 40 a game.

Unfortunately he took the ABA money that was too good to pass up and wound up on some bad teams and butted heads with coaches and teammates. Pete was kind of in the same boat tbh although in the NBA instead of the ABA.

Posted by RTRnFlorida
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:10 pm to
None taken. One played during the 60’s and 70’s and the other played during the age of TV, Cell phones and technology which is also the most recent, of the two. Of course Shaq is remembered more plus he’s on every papa John’s commercial, when he doesn’t even own Papa John’s.

I saw a poll several years ago about Shaq and those surveyed were told to say something about him and the top answer was :

He was a terrible free throw shooter. Second was he was tall and third was he played with Kobe.

Pete did it all on his own. Shaq couldn’t win without Kobe. If he never had Kobe, he’d be a taller Charles Barkley

Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:15 pm to
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As a lifelong Rockets fan, I approve this message. “Big Shot Bob” was a good one. Their offense was deadly with the inside/outside game with the Dream inside and so many shooters from outside. After that era I stopped watching NBA, it was just Harden jacking up 3’s.


Role player with a ice water in his veins, but he was open for those shots because the defense was focusing on other players. Averaged less than 7 ppg for his career and in the year he averaged his most minutes played in a game, he only averaged 12 points. Sprewell was not a good human being, but certainly was a better player than Horry. And the two current Bama players in the NBA that are averaging near twenty a game are better as well.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:20 pm to
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None taken. One played during the 60’s and 70’s and the other played during the age of TV, Cell phones and technology which is also the most recent, of the two. Of course Shaq is remembered more plus he’s on every papa John’s commercial, when he doesn’t even own Papa John’s.

I saw a poll several years ago about Shaq and those surveyed were told to say something about him and the top answer was :

He was a terrible free throw shooter. Second was he was tall and third was he played with Kobe.

Pete did it all on his own. Shaq couldn’t win without Kobe. If he never had Kobe, he’d be a taller Charles Barkley


Less teams and easier to win a title in the sixties and seventies. If anything, Bird and Magic saved the NBA and got more people interested in playing which produced better players and stiffer competition. People that bemoan the threes today don't understand that without it, it would be a tough watch. Would be defensive struggles every night. The three has made the game much more fluid and has opened up passing lanes. If you tried to play 70's and 80's basketball with today's athletes, scores would average in the 70's and 80's for most teams. Larry Bird has said this over and over in interviews. The athletes are too fast and quick for their size to just set up at half court and pound it into the paint.

Kobe never won without a HOF big man and the early Laker champs of this century are considered superior to Kobe's led teams. Again, the offense flowed through Shaq and that's why Kobe went to Jerry West and said it's him or me. His ego couldn't take playing second to Shaq. Kobe's selfishness cost them a title when they lost to Detroit. Refused to do what was best for the team.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Tigerfan0318
Missouri
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:27 pm to
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Mizzou- Michael Porter Jr. (Kind of surprising there was no one significantly better. Jordan Clarkson was a sixth man of the year, but Porter has starter for an NBA championship team and has the better counting stats)


Michael Porter Jr. only played in 3 games. Clarkson was good, for sure. But the best player was Derrick Chievous.

By the way, Mizzou just picked up another Porter in the transer portal. That should scare hell out of all SEC schools (and yes, that is total sarcasim).
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:35 pm to
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Michael Porter Jr. only played in 3 games. Clarkson was good, for sure. But the best player was Derrick Chievous.

By the way, Mizzou just picked up another Porter in the transer portal. That should scare hell out of all SEC schools (and yes, that is total sarcasim).


Guys, if you would like to discuss your best players for what they did at your school, that would be a great discussion. This one was about what they did after leaving your school and it's pretty obvious that's what it was about. I've appreciated the discussions from those who argue that other from their school had a better pro career than the one I picked. Otherwise, it's just arguing what breed of dog the animal is when it's in fact a lion.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Lige
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:38 pm to
Oklahoma-Waymond Tisdale. ?
Posted by Tigerfan0318
Missouri
Member since Oct 2018
2139 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:41 pm to
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This one was about what they did after leaving your school and it's pretty obvious that's what it was about.


Ok, I say Anthony Peeler.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:46 pm to
Mo Williams. The biggest reason LeBron actually won one in Cleveland.
Posted by Go Go Gata
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:50 pm to
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Florida- Bradley Beal (Maybe an argument could be made for Horford as a player that actually makes his team better.)


Vernon Maxwell left UF as the #2 all-time scorer in SEC history.

NBA champ with Rockets too.
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
2969 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:20 pm to
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Shaq couldn’t win without Kobe. If he never had Kobe, he’d be a taller Charles Barkley


Shaq averaged 27 and 12 over his 8 seasons with the Lakers. I’d say that he was a pretty significant contributor to their three titles during that time.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:29 pm to
You must mean the player who had the best NBA career. Not the best player when they were in college.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:49 pm to
[quote]Not a Pistol Pete fan I see.[/quot

Likely not that. Its probably just that he's clueless
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11087 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:50 pm to
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Ok, I say Anthony Peeler.


No championships for Peeler. I don't put huge amount in this unless it's close. I don't consider this close, but if it was, MPJ would even have that over him.

MPJ has four seasons with a better scoring average than Peeler's best in six seasons of play.

MPJ is averaging more than 6 PPG better than Peeler who is not even at double digits for his career.

MPJ is a better rebounder.

They are about the same as assist men.

Neither have drawn any All NBA accolades for defense.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 10:51 pm
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:03 pm to
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Likely not that. Its probably just that he's clueless


It seems you all are. In one way or another.

1. You're either clueless in thinking this is about their college resumes.

or

2. You're clueless in thinking Pete is considered a top 20 all time NBA player.

Shaq has four championships.
An MVP trophy. (Pete = 0)
An 8 time all NBA first team selection. (Pete = 2)
A 14 time all NBA first, second, third team selection combined. (Pete = 4)
A 15 time All-Star (Pete = 5)
A 3 time Finals MVP (beating Kobe out every year they won the Finals together) (Pete = 0)
ROY (Pete = 0)
3 time all NBA second team on defense. (Pete = "What the heck is defense?")
Two time NBA scoring champion. (Pete = 1)



Seriously man, what are we doing here? You could argue Shaq's the greatest NBA player from an SEC school and you're trying to argue Pete?

Is Pete better than Charles Barkley too?

Really sad that you guys don't appreciate what you had in Shaq. Guess some things don't die.



This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 11:08 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14834 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:07 pm to
Have fun with your best NBA players thread.

Does anyone else feel like the NBA peaked somewhere amongst those Lakers/Celtics series between Magic and Bird and the Bulls/Pistons series between Jordan and Thomas? That was must watch basketball. Incredible players, incredible games, real and intense rivalries, some real hate between certain players. Those were must watch games. It has steadily declined until now it is unwatchable. It seems the only people the players hate now days are some of us.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11087 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:08 pm to
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Have fun with your best NBA players thread.

Does anyone else feel like the NBA peaked somewhere amongst those Lakers/Celtics series between Magic and Bird and the Bulls/Pistons series between Jordan and Thomas? That was must watch basketball. Incredible players, incredible games, real and intense rivalries, some real hate between certain players. Those were must watch games. It has steadily declined until now it is unwatchable. It seems the only people the players hate now days are some of us.


Best NBA players from the SEC thread, lil Dalt man.



Old people always say it was best when they liked it.

This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 11:11 pm
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
15835 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:11 pm to
Shaq is definitely the most dominant LSU player of all time, but you can argue that Chris Jackson was the best. Every time he took a shot you knew it was going in. There was no doubt. I've never felt that way about another player other than MJ. Pistol Pete was also great but he was a volume guy.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11087 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:15 pm to
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Shaq is definitely the most dominant LSU player of all time, but you can argue that Chris Jackson was the best. Every time he took a shot you knew it was going in. There was no doubt. I've never felt that way about another player other than MJ. Pistol Pete was also great but he was a volume guy.


Like I said earlier, if we're talking strictly college, Jackson would be mentioned. But NBA? Shaq is just clearly better than anyone with the possible exception of Pettit who played in the early years when it was a far different game and less competition. Shaq's resume is in a tier where you don't count very high before you are finished with players equal to it.

Times making All NBA first, second or third teams:

Lebron 20
Kobe 15
Kareem 15
Tim Duncan 15
Karl Malone 14
Shaq 14

We've got LSU fans trying to take Shaq down a level for what reason? What did he do other than dominate the league for a handful of years like no other from your school has done.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 11:19 pm
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