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Good read - The Mess Jimbo Left: Inside FSU's Fall
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:52 am
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:52 am
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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The first losing season in four decades. An NCAA-record 36-year bowl streak snapped. The worst academic performance among Power Five conferences.
It's no wonder that Florida State fans have been doing everything from signing petitions to creating Facebook pages to starting GoFundMe campaigns to taking to social media to call for coach Willie Taggart's head.
But want to know who's really to blame for this mess in Tallahassee?
Look no further than former coach Jimbo Fisher.
Fisher, of course, is the man who pushed the program to the very top of the college football mountain not so long ago. But, according to FSU officials and former assistant coaches and players, it's also his fingerprints that are all over the decline.
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Not that Fisher will acknowledge his part in creating that situation. The now-Texas A&M coach told Bleacher Report in May: "I have no comment on that. I loved my time at FSU. We left the program in good shape, with good players."
Others around the program, however, tell a different story.
Many of the issues Taggart inherited, they say, began with the coddling of Jameis Winston, the player who led the Noles to such remarkable heights under Fisher. Those issues eventually bled into a hands-off attitude with academics and placed the program at risk of not complying with NCAA standards and being ineligible to participate in championship events.
Another former assistant under Fisher tells Bleacher Report that by the end of Fisher's reign, coaches were being given one mandate: "Keep the players eligible."
When asked if that was indeed the overriding academic plan, Coburn admits, "It appears that was the case."
Coburn, who worked as chief of staff for FSU president John Thrasher before Thrasher appointed him interim and then permanent athletic director, stops there. He wants to make one thing unequivocally clear: He and Thrasher, the man who ultimately would make any personnel decisions about the football program, are on the same page when it comes to any blame for the state of the team falling on Taggart—and Taggart's unshakable job security.
"I don't know how people can make an evaluation like that from the outside," Coburn continues. "They don't have a clue. It's almost not worth dignifying.
"What's real is there absolutely were locker room issues, and now, too, you can see the [academic] issues. Willie had a lot to deal with, beyond the field, when he got this job, and he's been busy dealing with it. That's [Taggart's] biggest culture change."
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:56 am to momentoftruth87
No; just one with a clearer title.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:56 am to AHM21
I like how that article leaves out the condition Bowden left Florida State in.
Difference?
Fisher = 3-win improvement over his predecessor
Taggart = 2-win decline over his predecessor
Difference?
Fisher = 3-win improvement over his predecessor
Taggart = 2-win decline over his predecessor
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:56 am to AHM21
You, my man, are an asset to tRant.
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This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 11:58 am
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:58 am to AHM21
Seems like Taggart is just making excuses for his shortcomings. Pretty sad.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:00 pm to CaptainPanic
I wonder why that article leaves out that Taggart has a career losing record as a head coach?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:01 pm to JohnnyU
I've seen this article before.
Charlie Strong was a terrible head coach at t.u. because of Mack Brown, not because he was a bad coach and bad fit.
Charlie Strong was a terrible head coach at t.u. because of Mack Brown, not because he was a bad coach and bad fit.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I mean, you can’t really explain away the academic issues at FSU leading to an undisciplined team. That makes sense. Fisher seems to be more of a players coach.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:09 pm to AHM21
Black coach takes mediocre program, beats Bama and has a Heisman winner - gets run out of town on a rail.
White coach leaves high level program in shambles - gets 13 million dollar contract.

White coach leaves high level program in shambles - gets 13 million dollar contract.

This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:10 pm to AHM21
Complete BS. Just like our fans blaming Urban for Muschamp's failure.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:16 pm to LSU Patrick
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Black coach takes mediocre program, beats Bama and has a Heisman winner - gets run out of town on a rail.
White coach leaves high level program in shambles - gets 13 million dollar contract.
You should be ashamed of this post.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:17 pm to AHM21
Didn't we already do this one?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:17 pm to 3down10
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You should be ashamed of this post.
it was a response post.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:18 pm to LSU Patrick
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Black coach takes mediocre program, beats Bama and has a Heisman winner - gets run out of town on a rail.
White coach leaves high level program in shambles - gets 13 million dollar contract.
It is funny that the only coach to not have a substantial regression results wise after moving to Collie Station was Sumlin.

And then aTm made him an alcoholic.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:23 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Didn't we already do this one?
Someone already made this statement. Keep up.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:27 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Didn't we already do this one?
Similar, but not the same article.
This appears to be a fresh new article about the disaster Jundo Fisher created.
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I don’t oft say this, but great post Assy! *REDACTED*
ETA: yeahhhh that other post on the front page is the same. Smh.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:40 pm to AHM21
I love unbiased news stories.
Too bad a story from Tallahassee on Jimbo Fisher will never be written.
Too bad a story from Tallahassee on Jimbo Fisher will never be written.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:42 pm to AHM21
Could you imagine having a multi-million $$ job and being dependent on kids like Winston and Johnny Football?
Winston ruined FSU and Jimbo allowed it. That much is pretty clear. In hindsight, Sumlin should get some credit for his management of epic moron Johnny Manziel.
Winston ruined FSU and Jimbo allowed it. That much is pretty clear. In hindsight, Sumlin should get some credit for his management of epic moron Johnny Manziel.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:43 pm to WorkinDawg
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Johnny Manziel
What a complete waste of ability there.
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